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If either go under, who would Nintendo buy?

PlayStation 110 70.97%
 
Xbox 45 29.03%
 
Total:155
Teeqoz said:
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I'm talking about just their gaming division. That is what this thread is about anyways.


I don't think you know how much just their gaming divisions are worth either. I certainly don't.


I don't think you know how much Nintendo actually has in the bank. I certantly don't.



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Teeqoz said:


I don't think you know how much just their gaming divisions are worth either. I certainly don't.


I don't think you know how much Nintendo actually has in the bank. I certantly don't.


I don't know in the sense that I don't go around remembering it, but as far as I know it is around 10 billion dollars. That is easily found through a Google search (side note: Google search reveals that Nintendo's total assets are 11.5 Billion dollars. Keep in mind that those assets aren't only money in the bank, but literally everything they own). There is no real figure on how much Playstation or Xbox is worth (hence why I don't think you know), and I honestly don't know enough about the Xbox business to make an estimate for it, but Sony has forecast their gaming division to make 640 million dollars profit for this fiscal year, and assuming that figure won't rise as the PS4 matures (which is a silly assumption, mind you), that would mean 6.4 billion in 10 years. That is an absolute minimum for Playstation's value. If you want to make a more realistic estimate, it's worth 13 Billion, though this is probably still on the low end. As a top estimate I'd say 20 Billion dollars. So let's go with the 13 Billion estimate (FYI, Nintendo's market cap is at 18.5 Billion). That is higher than Nintendo's total assets, and much higher than what they "have in the bank".



Teeqoz said:
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I don't think you know how much Nintendo actually has in the bank. I certantly don't.


I don't know in the sense that I don't go around remembering it, but as far as I know it is around 10 billion dollars. That is easily found through a Google search (side note: Google search reveals that Nintendo's total assets are 11.5 Billion dollars. Keep in mind that those assets aren't only money in the bank, but literally everything they own). There is no real figure on how much Playstation or Xbox is worth (hence why I don't think you know), and I honestly don't know enough about the Xbox business to make an estimate for it, but Sony has forecast their gaming division to make 640 million dollars profit for this fiscal year, and assuming that figure won't rise as the PS4 matures (which is a silly assumption, mind you), that would mean 6.4 billion in 10 years. That is an absolute minimum for Playstation's value. If you want to make a more realistic estimate, it's worth 13 Billion, though this is probably still on the low end. As a top estimate I'd say 20 Billion dollars. So let's go with the 13 Billion estimate (FYI, Nintendo's market cap is at 18.5 Billion). That is higher than Nintendo's total assets, and much higher than what they "have in the bank".


So basically you posted this just for an argument when you can't really prove if Nintendo could buy either of them or not? Doesn't seem like a good use of time. :)



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XBox brand would probably make more sense in a lot of ways ....

They'd regain Rare

They'd be able to massively expand NOA overnight since Microsoft is right across the street from NOA, they could just absorb a lot of those employees without any fuss.

XBox brand is still quite huge in the US/UK where they have big problems and big with the "dudebros" demo they struggle with.

Halo is a useful IP still.

Rumors that MS may sell the XBox brand anyway.

Hallo thar Minecraft x Nintendo crossovers. 



Playstation is kinda the most profitable Sony's division, and they're betting a lot on it. What's the point of this thread ?

 

I think I'll make a new thread : "I want to buy a gaming division, which one ?"



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Teeqoz said:


I don't know in the sense that I don't go around remembering it, but as far as I know it is around 10 billion dollars. That is easily found through a Google search (side note: Google search reveals that Nintendo's total assets are 11.5 Billion dollars. Keep in mind that those assets aren't only money in the bank, but literally everything they own). There is no real figure on how much Playstation or Xbox is worth (hence why I don't think you know), and I honestly don't know enough about the Xbox business to make an estimate for it, but Sony has forecast their gaming division to make 640 million dollars profit for this fiscal year, and assuming that figure won't rise as the PS4 matures (which is a silly assumption, mind you), that would mean 6.4 billion in 10 years. That is an absolute minimum for Playstation's value. If you want to make a more realistic estimate, it's worth 13 Billion, though this is probably still on the low end. As a top estimate I'd say 20 Billion dollars. So let's go with the 13 Billion estimate (FYI, Nintendo's market cap is at 18.5 Billion). That is higher than Nintendo's total assets, and much higher than what they "have in the bank".


So basically you posted this just for an argument when you can't really prove if Nintendo could buy either of them or not? Doesn't seem like a good use of time. :)


I did just prove that Nintendo couldn't, at the very least buy Playstation. If you feel like my estimates are weird or unrealisticially high, feel free to point out so (which I'm guessing is what you think, given it's the only ay you could say I haven't proved that Nintendo can't buy Playstation.)

But if you mean that since there is no official figure for the value of Playstation, you can just claim that Nintendo has enough money in the bank to buy them, because after all, there's no way to absolutely, with 100% certainty disprove it. The closest you can get is to make reasonable estimates and use some logic and use what evidence we have to come to some pretty safe conclusions. This is sort of like the argument about an all-powerful God. I mean, I can't with 100% certainty disprove a God, but there is no evidence backing it up, and there is nothing that should make me believe it. In this case though, it is a bit easier to come up with some evidence (which I did).

But you are right, if you aren't gonna provide any counterarguments, and just wave away my evidence as nothing, then this isn't a good use of time, so I won't reply anymore if you aren't interested in seriously discussing the matter.



Teeqoz said:
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So basically you posted this just for an argument when you can't really prove if Nintendo could buy either of them or not? Doesn't seem like a good use of time. :)


I did just prove that Nintendo couldn't, at the very least buy Playstation. If you feel like my estimates are weird or unrealisticially high, feel free to point out so (which I'm guessing is what you think, given it's the only ay you could say I haven't proved that Nintendo can't buy Playstation.)

But if you mean that since there is no official figure for the value of Playstation, you can just claim that Nintendo has enough money in the bank to buy them, because after all, there's no way to absolutely, with 100% certainty disprove it. The closest you can get is to make reasonable estimates and use some logic and use what evidence we have to come to some pretty safe conclusions. This is sort of like the argument about an all-powerful God. I mean, I can't with 100% certainty disprove a God, but there is no evidence backing it up, and there is nothing that should make me believe it. In this case though, it is a bit easier to come up with some evidence (which I did).

But you are right, if you aren't gonna provide any counterarguments, and just wave away my evidence as, then this isn't a good use of time, so I won't reply anymore if you aren't interested in seriously discussing the matter.

You do have estimates. But it doesn't prove anything.

I guess I was wrong to say Nintendo could buy Playstation when I meant Nintendo could probably buy it. This is due to me not having the evidence. 

Happy now? I waved away your evidence because it certaintly doesn't matter at all in the scheme of things. I did not ask for you to estimate or provide any evidence of what could happen.

Sometimes people  say stupid shit unintentionally or intentionaly and you just need to wave it off man. Not everything is worth arguing for. Once you learn that I'm sure it'll be a lot less stressful to get on these forums. :) 



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I don't think it would help if they bought either. Outside of increasing market share in EU with PS it wouldn't really be as big of a deal and most of the IPs won't fit Nintendo's style. If anything they should buy Sega. They got the IPs, the mascots, and sub companies that would bring the mature edge to Nintendo without ruining anything.

Plus they would own Atlus and the Bayonetta IP. It would be a match made in heaven.



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Teeqoz said:


I did just prove that Nintendo couldn't, at the very least buy Playstation. If you feel like my estimates are weird or unrealisticially high, feel free to point out so (which I'm guessing is what you think, given it's the only ay you could say I haven't proved that Nintendo can't buy Playstation.)

But if you mean that since there is no official figure for the value of Playstation, you can just claim that Nintendo has enough money in the bank to buy them, because after all, there's no way to absolutely, with 100% certainty disprove it. The closest you can get is to make reasonable estimates and use some logic and use what evidence we have to come to some pretty safe conclusions. This is sort of like the argument about an all-powerful God. I mean, I can't with 100% certainty disprove a God, but there is no evidence backing it up, and there is nothing that should make me believe it. In this case though, it is a bit easier to come up with some evidence (which I did).

But you are right, if you aren't gonna provide any counterarguments, and just wave away my evidence as, then this isn't a good use of time, so I won't reply anymore if you aren't interested in seriously discussing the matter.

You do have estimates. But it doesn't prove anything.

I guess I was wrong to say Nintendo could buy Playstation when I meant Nintendo could probably buy it. This is due to me not having the evidence. 

Happy now? I waved away your evidence because it certaintly doesn't matter at all in the scheme of things. I did not ask for you to estimate or provide any evidence of what could happen.

Sometimes people  say stupid shit unintentionally or intentionaly and you just need to wave it off man. Not everything is worth arguing for. Once you learn that I'm sure it'll be a lot less stressful to get on these forums. :) 


Judging from the evidence I've given you, I'd say it's more a probably not than a probably

 

As for the rest, well, I'm not sure what you mean by "it certainly doesn't matter at all in the grand scheme of things", because the same is true for literally every single post on this forum. And no, you didn't ask me to provide any evidence, however I figured it made sense to provide evidence when I'm making a claim, and I'm sure you agree on that

If someone says something wrong, and it looks to be unintentional, then I don't see a reason as to why one shouldn't try to inform that someone, instead of just letting them keep their misinformation. That is not the same as arguing. I'm not trying to convince you of something, or to try and change your mind about anything. I'm just trying to correct some apparent misinformation, take that as you wish. No offense intended.



JRPGfan said:
Nintendo dont need to buy Playstation.... all they need to do is steal some of their tallent away from them.
And spend a bit of $ on getting 3rd party onboard again.

This.

kowenicki said:
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I don't think you know how much Nintendo actually has in the bank. I certantly don't.


I do. 4.3bn dollars.  Like I said.  Not enough.

Last gen they had like 9-10bn. Just to show how bad this gen has come from them.



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