When NX was first announced I stated it would launch in 2016 with Zelda as a launch title. I don't believe I had any supporters in that thread. ( http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=203652 )

With this year's E3 in the past, I think it should be obvious to anyone at this point.

Q1 - Nintendo Direct close to Q1 financials will be a limited debut of the new system with Zelda as the primary game shown off and a limited game reel. "Holiday 2016"

Q2 / E3 2016 - Nintendo will blast out full content including games, price, and launch dates for all regions.

It's happening and I am looking forward to it.

WiiU will be 4 years old, but it has many great games and did not do well as it was simply too expensive for its lower powered capabilities and too confusing (marketing-wise) to the mass audience it was trying to sell.

NNX is needed and really no different than the continous revisions of handhelds every couple of years. Hopefully Nintendo has some great new concepts to grow off of while allowing nearly free porting of games for 3rd parties to entice a wider library offering.

People have to remember that the majority of gamers still have PS360s. There are still tens of millions who have not upgraded and if they large see WiiU as 'last-gen', then NX could be considered Nintendo's real next-gen console in their eyes. 

I'm ok with that so long as it is still "Nintendo"-esque with a ~$300 price tag. Not a me-too system. That will just continue to lose.

I woke up after the Digital event and I see the site in revolt against Nintendo. XD
Seriously, either Nintendo is moving all of their resources to the NX already, or they are developing a bunch of games and they just didn't show them, which would be one of the dummest things to do (even a teaser would have been better).
I hope the NX takes its time, specially if it is the Fusion project. That kind of thech could be tricky.

I agree and I've had this suspicion as well.

One quick thought: Nintendo wants to unify its handheld and home console resources. If they released their next handheld in 2016 and pushed back the home console release the two platforms would be worlds apart in terms of power. Releasing the home console first, in 2016, makes sense: The Wii U is almost dead sales-wise and releasing late next year will give Nintendo another advantage: They can have a cheap new console that is still the most powerful piece of hardware on the market. If they play their cards right and make porting games easy this will guarantee them at least some third party support for the next three years (cheap ports of PS4 / XO games to stronger hardware). It will also make the power gap between the home console and handheld smaller.

It's been very telling we haven't seen Zelda or the next Retro game - or any other high profile first party title other than Starfox.

I could see a mid year release for their console if they're trying to get all the late year third party's on board. Direct in Feb announcing it, release just a free e3 where they drop the bombs. If they don't have bombs to drop, then they probably shouldn't bother releasing the nx

An interesting point to consider.

Let's assume they released a console that was on par with the ps4 and xbox one in 2016, the specification and shelf life would strongly suggest it was a 8th gen machine, but the numerical progression would insist that it was actually 9th generation owing to the fact that calling it 8th gen would demote the wiiu to 7th gen and the wii to 6th gen.

More interesting is, if you did demote the generations like that, the PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4 would all be market leaders for their given generations.

Maybe we should call it Gen 8.1

Yesterday's showing is a compelling argument for this, yes.

That's quite a stretch you're making there.

That definitely seems to be the case.. NONE of the stuff Nintendo showed yesterday looked high-quality. The Zelda game looked very cheap, Metroid looked like something made in a month, Animal Crossing for the WiiU it's not even a legit AC game, the Paper Mario crossover reuses lots of assets, Mario Tennis is just Mario Tennis..

Or they could just pull an Atari or Sega and release two consoles in the same generation (2600 and 5200, SG-1000 and Master System).

I made a clear and justified observation regarding generation tagging, then theorized that if the generation tags for nintendo hardware were adjusted to suit a new hardware release in keeping with timing and specification, then it would adjust the previous generation differences, as it would, this is a factual statement based off of a logical deduction.

I finished off the post stating that we should probably call it generation 8.1 rather than assign it a new generation or drop previous generation tags back one, which is in direct contradiction to your insinuation in your resulting reply.

You are making very borderline statements, I advise you to reconsider and get back on topic.