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The reality is that Sony Blew their load that is why they did not have PSX and E3 this year, LoU2, DS, Ghosts enhancements are predictable and more than likely Horizon 2 and 1 AAA 3rd party exclusive games. Insomniac is the only studio they have that could come with a surprise title outside of the predictable Spider-Man 2.

Last edited by EspadaGrim - on 16 December 2019

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Conina said:
jason1637 said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/eav7it/rumour_xbox_series_x_have_more_launch_titles_than/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Apparently this guy leaked that Hellblade 2 would be at the game awards and he's saying MS has 12-16 planned exclusives for the series X launch while sony plans to offer enhancements to games like the TLOU2 etc.

If this is true I could see like 4 AAA caliber exclusives and the rest being small projects or XGS published games for gamepass.

So how big are the chances that one person outside of Sony and Microsoft

- knows the launch titles (or number of launch titles) of the new Xbox one year in advance AND

- ALSO knows the launch titles (or number of launch titles) of the new PlayStation one year in advance AND

- ain't afraid to publicise these insider informations although he would be probably sued by both companies and burn bridges with them

Yeah rumors should be taken with a grain of salt since we're still a little under a year away from the consoles launching but the guy does have a track record so we never really don't know how accurate it is.



EspadaGrim said:

The reality is that Sony Blew their load that is why they did not have PSX and or E3 this year, LoU2, DS, Ghosts enhancements are predictable and more than likely Horizon 2 and 1 AAA 3rd party exclusive games/ Insomniac is the only studio they have that could come with a surprise title outside of the predictable Spider-Man 2.

Yeah this is why I could see it being somewhat true. Most of Sonys first party dev's won't make launch since a lot of their games started hitting mid to late this gen. I could see them filling their laun with published games like the one shown at TGA. Something similar happened with the PS4 when their only AAA launch game was Killzone with some AA games like Knack.

As for MS I really won't be surprised if they dump a dozen or so A-AAA games at launch for gamepass to build up a nextgen catalog. 



jason1637 said:
EspadaGrim said:

The reality is that Sony Blew their load that is why they did not have PSX and or E3 this year, LoU2, DS, Ghosts enhancements are predictable and more than likely Horizon 2 and 1 AAA 3rd party exclusive games/ Insomniac is the only studio they have that could come with a surprise title outside of the predictable Spider-Man 2.

Yeah this is why I could see it being somewhat true. Most of Sonys first party dev's won't make launch since a lot of their games started hitting mid to late this gen. I could see them filling their laun with published games like the one shown at TGA. Something similar happened with the PS4 when their only AAA launch game was Killzone with some AA games like Knack.

As for MS I really won't be surprised if they dump a dozen or so A-AAA games at launch for gamepass to build up a nextgen catalog. 

Yeah PS4 only had Killzone at Launch and Infamous year one, Dive Club was supposed to be launch but got delayed a year. I’m speaking of AAA of course.



I assume that leak means first party only? Because we already know PS5 is gonna have Godfall at launch so there can't be no exclusives. 

12-16 seems like a lot for Series X as well, especially with already having a huge one in Halo Infinite, so would it not be more beneficial to spread them out more at that point? 

Last edited by FloatingWaffles - on 15 December 2019

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12-16 exclusives on launch isn't happening, unless he is including late ports for several of the Q1-Q3 2020 XB1 games as exclusives, which I do not. XB1 launched with 22 titles as I recall; 10 exclusives, 3 of which were AAA (Dead Rising 3, Forza Motorsport 5, Ryse), 7 which were AA or A (including Zoo Tycoon, Killer Instinct, and Crimson Dragon), and most of those 7 smaller exclusives flopped, overshadowed by the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd party AAA’s of the crowded Holiday season. Microsoft would be foolish to repeat that mistake and send a bunch of single A games out to their doom. They’d be better off with 3 AAA’s and 3 AA’s on launch than say 2 AAA’s, 5 AA’s, and 9 A’s, as most of those AA and A games will be overshadowed and flop.

Right now we have 1 confirmed launch exclusive for Series X, Halo Infinite, with the strong possibility of an exclusive Forza as well, considering the Forza section in the Series X reveal trailer. So it's safe to say that MS will probably have at least 1 more AAA exclusive available on Series X launch, preferably something that is fully exclusive and a graphical showcase title for Series X, since Halo and likely Forza will both be crossgen, held back by XB1. That 3rd AAA could be Senua’s Saga since we know it is fully exclusive, but Phil called it early development, so 2021 seems more likely for it. They'll also need a few AA exclusives on launch. They need at least 1 AA JP 2nd/3rd party exclusive on launch, if they don't want Series X to flop even harder in Japan than XB1 did; ignoring Japan totally on release could cost them JP 3rd party support early next gen, just like early this gen. Personally hoping to see the long rumored AAA Perfect Dark story driven reboot available on launch, developed by a 2nd party partner with some 1st party assistance.

As for Sony's PS5 launch titles, it's safe to say that ports or BC enhancements of TLOU 2 and Ghost of Tsushima will happen. There are also rumors of a GT Sport port on launch, or possibly even Gran Turismo 7. I also think we could see Horizon Zero Dawn 2 on launch, as they'll have had over 3 years to develop it as of Holiday 2020, and it will be the main graphical showcase title for Playstation 5, developed exclusively for PS5. Most of Sony's 1st party studios blew their load on late PS4 exclusives, which could hurt their 1st party output early next gen, so I look for them to rely quite heavily on 2nd and 3rd party exclusives, like the already announced Godfall.

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 15 December 2019

Forza Motorsport 8 is getting revealed according to the latest ForzaFriday stream by Turn 10. https://www.gamesradar.com/the-next-forza-motorsport-game-is-already-playable-with-plans-for-an-official-announcement-next-year/
They also spoke about some neat new features.
"Esaki began to "rattle off" a number of new features coming to the next installment in the racing franchise, including a "new tire model [and] new tire pressure model", explaining that Turn 10 has developed "a new way that heat interacts with the tire pressure, and we actually have dynamic track temperatures affecting this all.
""We have dynamic rubbering-in on track", continued Esaki, "a new atmosphere pressure system that accurately has pressure affecting things like air density affecting tire dynamics and power [and] an entirely new suspension system with new suspension modeling. I'm missing about 15 other things that's all under the hood, and that's just kind of the moment-to-moment, rubber meets the road experience.""



jason1637 said:

Forza Motorsport 8 is getting revealed according to the latest ForzaFriday stream by Turn 10. https://www.gamesradar.com/the-next-forza-motorsport-game-is-already-playable-with-plans-for-an-official-announcement-next-year/
They also spoke about some neat new features.
"Esaki began to "rattle off" a number of new features coming to the next installment in the racing franchise, including a "new tire model [and] new tire pressure model", explaining that Turn 10 has developed "a new way that heat interacts with the tire pressure, and we actually have dynamic track temperatures affecting this all.
""We have dynamic rubbering-in on track", continued Esaki, "a new atmosphere pressure system that accurately has pressure affecting things like air density affecting tire dynamics and power [and] an entirely new suspension system with new suspension modeling. I'm missing about 15 other things that's all under the hood, and that's just kind of the moment-to-moment, rubber meets the road experience.""

Sweet. I love the sound of all that.



Huh, looks like Forza Motorsport 8 for Series X launch then surely? Seems a bit of a tight schedule considering they only started development this year.

I've been thinking and I think they should still do a proper reveal event for Series X/S in February/March, hold a short event and reveal:

- Lockhart (Series S?)

- Price & Release Date for Series X & S.

- Reveal of Forza Motorsport 8.

- Showcase Halo Infinite Gameplay + Beta Announcement.



I think MS are currently waiting for Sony's move. If they do a early 2020 reveal I think MS will have an event a few weeks after them but if they don't do it until late April/May I think Xbox will be happy to just leave it to E3. If the rumoured mid February for PS5 reveal turns out I think MS will already have a early March event pencilled in ready to drop more info. I don't expect anymore games to be shown before E3 though just more console stuff.