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the-pi-guy said:
bdbdbd said:

But the female characters are the female fantasy. Problem with Leia and Padme is that they're side characters. Rey on the other hand is Elsa in Star Wars universe. People like Leia and Padme because they're believable.

Whether you like damsell in distress or not, female fantasy is that someone who they love will save them just like male fantasy is to be the hero.

bdbdbd said:

Actually I had by pointing out that men don't have any problems with the chores after they're divorced. Also, if you follow what men say that what they do is never good enough for women and women say men don't do good enough job. And here's the catch: you do the chores in the household when a woman wants to, not tomorrow when there's time for it, but they have to be done today, because she thinks there's too much dishes, too dirty, sheets need to be changed and so on. There are two people in a relationship and if you want both to participate, you need to find the time from both of your schedule. If you want both to clean next sunday, you agree on it a week earlier, not argue about it a day before. 

JRPGfan said:

Again, because of gender rolls.

The law should be equal, but lets not kid ourselves, women get away with alot of sh*t men can't.

What makes these things ironic, is that a lot of these things are cultural issues that you guys are feeding into.  

People having your same mindset, are causing the same issues that you're complaining about.  

You are arguing men and women are fundamentally different - have different skills and interests, while complaining that society tends to assume that mothers will be better parents (because women are fundamentally more interested in raising kids.)

Well, they're cultural issues because it's human nature. They have become cultural issues because that's the way human's act.

People complain when society assumes women are better parents, because they aren't. If yo follow the data, kids raised by single fathers succeed in life roughly as good as kids raised in nuclear families, whereas kids raised by single mothers end up being the worst - still society favours mothers. Mothers aren't better parents than fathers, they're just different. Women being more interested in raising kids doesn't make them better parents, especially if their interest ends for some reason or another. Men on the other hand have the advantage of understanding kids being their responsibility. Women have kids when they want kids, men have kids when they're ready to have the respondibility. 

Last edited by bdbdbd - on 31 August 2025

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