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JRPGfan on 30 August 2025
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Torillian said:
EricHiggin said:
Torillian said:

I'm arguing you don't need to say it for it to be the case. 

Here's a hypothetical. What if I said women's role is to lead and innovate and men's role was to do dishes and laundry? I haven't said that either is superior but I think we can figure it out without it being stated. 

Even if staying home and taking care of the kids was superior and far more important, you would assume that in an intelligent, civilized, logical society, the people would prefer the very best for the role then. There's plenty of reasons why woman are seen as better at those roles. It's the same reason why in divorce, the woman get the kids, or the majority of time spent with them. They are the future.

And just because woman are taking over roles seen as more masculine (in the past), doesn't mean they're doing a better job at those roles. Would society prefer the best for each and every role doing those jobs, or do we prefer everyone simply doing whatever they feel like, even if that meant less efficiency and reliability?

Not everyone see's things the same way, and not every scenario is simply right and wrong. Sometimes it's simply better than another option, at that time.

My recollection is that the reason women get the kids in the divorce most of the time is that men don't fight for it most of the time. If that's a factual disagreement I can try to look it up. 

I'm not saying that women are doing a better job at those roles. I'm saying that women view those roles as acceptable while men don't view women's roles as acceptable by and large. This leads me to think that most people view one role as superior to the other. In a free society I would prefer people get to do what they want over being assigned what they're best at. 

Lost me on the last paragraph. 

^ the system is rigged in favor of women, when it comes to custody battles.
Its not because men don't fight for their kids.... they just arn't allowed to have them, at the same rate women are.
Again, because of gender rolls.

Basically you have be a horrible mother, to lose a custody battle.
While as a man, unless the mother is such... chances are your facing a uphill battle, that's not in your favor.

The law should be equal, but lets not kid ourselves, women get away with alot of sh*t men can't.