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redkong said:

I really don't consider  Switch 2 receiving  current gen games  a achievement. PS4  received 2 massive open world games that came out on current gen and ported later, and they look more demanding then these games.

Most people expected 60fps for Sparkling zero, Madden and Fifa. Lumen and nanite were expected as well for Fornite. People keep saying it's closer to Series s yet there are no games that are demanding that run double the frames of PS4, nothing comes close to the gaps were seeing between Series s and switch 2.

"Xbox 1 ~1%

PS4 ~40%

PS4 PRO ~40%

Xbox Series S ~14%

PS5 ~3%

Xbox Series X ~2%"


This was the results from the Thread question. 80% expected some PS4/Pro level hardware... I've personally always been on the train that Switch 2 will be a PS4 approx with some modern feature sets that will bring it to some comparison with current gen like DLSS/Raytraycing/Memory speed etc.... I think that has always been the most sound expectation. 

When I say "achievement", I don't mean in the sense of being impressed by Nintendo's efforts, more that Nintendo is achieving the goal that I considered most important. For me that is getting current gen games onto mainstream handheld in a frequent and respectable fashion. That has never been done before and for the first time makes a handheld/hybrid a viable place for most 3rd party games. It is just where we are in the technological curve. And I don't consider Steamdeck a mainstream device. The average person can't walk into a store and purchase it.

There's been some back and forth about Series S comparison but I feel like we don't need to pretend its a mystery. Switch is notably  "weaker" than S, it would be a miracle if they produced a system the power of Series S and sell it for a mainstream price. It's a nice treat that some features like DLSS and RAM can offer image quality/texture benefits in the right circumstances, but no ones expectations should go beyond that.

Something both Series S and Swicth 2 will suffer from, is poor optimisation. They are at the bottom of the priority list for many developers. Could madden and DBZ sparking zero be 60fps on Switch 2? Sure, and as fight/sports game they should be. The developers didn't care to prioritise that and just likely butchered the PS5 version until it ran on the relevant hardware. If there is a Switch version at 30fps (Sparking Zero), there can be a S2 version at 60 or even 120fps lol.

Last edited by Otter - on 18 August 2025