JRPGfan said:
Otter said:
I think the connection is 100% internal bias. Lets look at Sweetbaby inc and recent AAA consultancy efforts
Marvels Spiderman 2
God of War Ragnarok
Alan Wake II
The Suicide Squad
Gotham Knights
The Crew Motofest
Of those games Suicide Squad and Gotham Knights are the obvious flops but their lack of quality obviously has nothing to do with DEI to anyone who is actually going to think about it critically. The other games we're just going to ignore because they're successful right?
It's clear that people are first seeing something they dislike "references to pronouns" "Ethnic Minority leads" and then backwards engineer a game flopping to be tied to that thing they dislike. Games flop all the time, series dissapoint constantly, studios fall short. We didn't need DEI narratives to look at the decline of Square Enix, Bethesda, Rare (although coming back to form).
When Concord flops its a DEI problem, when Immortals of Aveum flops it's just a quality problem. People are just being selective. |
Conversely we don't know if the games would have been even better, if Sweetbaby inc didn't mess with them.
I think Sweetbaby inc, probably consulted / wrote for like 70 other games.
If you wanted to prove your point, you should look at them all.
See how many of them turn out good atleast, compaired to bad, or flopped.
Vs how common it is for games (without consultant firms).
Maybe your also falling into " internal bias" when you say, your take, without backing it up.
I havn't looked either, so like you, this is just my "gut" feeling.
More often than not, I think this DEI stuff hurts games.
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I literally grabbed all of the their recent "AAA" so it's actually a fair test without bias. We are after all talking about an AAA games. I didn't grab small indie games or AA because we rarely know their exact success rate or what equates to success for them.
"Conversely we don't know if the games would have been even better, if Sweetbaby inc didn't mess with them."
This is the point at which I'm very happy to leave this discussion alone because what is there to even warrant this investigation beyond the original bias? What games are you think of when you suspect DEI ruining their quality?
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