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scottslater said:
eva01beserk said:

Your doing exactly what I said was done during the beginning of last gen. Like I said, every step was applauded by fans at every single turn and was determined to be the turning point of how it would overtake the US, its strongest market. Be it removing Kinect, lowering the price, gamepass, buying Mojang, backwards compact. Every single one was the "IT" factor missing at the time and after each failed it was always back to, "but the reveal was awful". Always back to the one thing that cant be turned back to compare the results. And all of it was BS. The one thing that we can truly say is that the ps3 was in a much worse situation launching much more expensive, weaker and a year later but it turned it around by the power of its exclusive games alone. This was told to xbox fans all along the 8th gen while they praised all the other things phill gave them besides games. ANd we are back to the same thing. 

Im willing to bet that if this gen goes the same or worse for the xbox they will no doubt bring back 2013 reveal and say that its still hurting them. Never lack games.

I don't know a single fan that "applauded" anything Microsoft did last generation outside of Game Pass.

And yes, bad launches are usually why consoles fail. PS3 was a failure by Sony's standard, all because of that launch. Xbox One was failure, Wii U was a failure, etc because of their launches. So many jump ship to a different platform/PC, don't ever bother upgrading, etc. I can't think of a single console that had a bad launch that would ever be considered a success later on.

Welcome to the internet my friend where everything you say is saved forever. We are in a forum after all. All we have to do is search by time frame and wala. thread after thread of xbox fans holding on to every little thing done over the course of the gen.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/183121/xbox-one-to-overtake-ps4-in-na-in-2015-says-analyst/1/

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/184522/kinect-less-x1-releases-tomorrow-how-are-pre-orders-stacking-up-will-sales-go-up-dramatically/1/

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/186910/xbox-one-sales-more-than-double-in-june-with-new-399-option-and-unveiling-of-holiday-games-lineup/1/

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/186350/xbox-one-is-the-home-of-competitive-console-gaming/1/

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/188829/china-approves-sale-of-5-million-xbox-one-units/1/

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/187888/the-xbox-one-is-doing-extremely-well/1/

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/188182/xbox-one-tier-2-countries-will-give-the-console-a-large-boost/1/

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/189628/ea-access-is-a-system-seller/1/

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/202085/us-only-will-halo-5-guardians-be-the-game-that-puts-xbone-and-ps4-to-neck-amp-neck/1/

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/203377/a-microsoft-turn-around-the-importance-of-games-in-gaming/1/

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/194905/whens-the-xbox-one-gonna-overtake-the-ps4-in-the-us/1/

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/220163/microsoft-xbox-scorpios-power-advantage-over-ps4-pro-will-be-obvious/1/

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/224258/could-the-xbox-one-win-the-us-in-2017/1/

I think i posted to many. And these are just up untill early 2017 and threads I participated in. There could be a hell of lot more. Theres also like 100+ from toastboy its best to limit thouse. But the fans never lost hope that the xbox was gona take the US at some point. And everytime it failed with every new strategy it always comes back to, the launch was just that bad. Never the lack of games. 



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