Cobretti2 said:
Here is another question, for those who go to other gaming sites.
How do they fair compared to VGChartz?
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I've been to other forums in the past, but I'm only posting here now.
I like the fact that this forum is one of the big ones but not really too crowed, like every thread getting 50 or 100 pages.
I also like the fact that we try to discuss industry, but here it doesn't look like posters are self-righteous-know-everything-about-industry like on some of those big forums out there.
VAMatt said:
A major issue is that we no longer get linked to by games journalists, because we no longer have much of the unique sales data that journalists used to refer to.
I came here the first time through a link from a Forbes.com writer that referred to this site often. But, it's been years since he mentioned this site at all. The same is true all over the place. With the current state of sales data here, which was what made this place unique, there aren't many opportunities for our content to be picked up by other outlets. So, we get few newcomers to replace the people that leave, and the site slowly declines.
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I'd say that nobody has. It seems to me that the media now waits for the next financial results and that's good enough. The media doesn't care much about weekly sales.
Regardless, I think we need to find other ways to keep tracking of the industry that is not just raw sales numbers. I don't have the answers either, but raw sales numbers will be a thing of the past soon due to digital sales and streaming stuff. I had opened a thread about that.
CGI-Quality said:
Our site hasn't been mentioned as much for sales because we've had a harder time tracking them (and are the only site to attempt to do it in such a fashion — this is often overlooked).
Most of the main functional complaints I hear don't even scratch the surface of understanding to the work staff has put into the site (particularly Machina, Talon, Trucks, Trunks, hell, all of the Site Admins, the GDB Staff, and our Writers). They are constantly trying to figure out new ways to implement updated functions and/or re-write code.
I get the issues people have, but I also see what goes into the work here more than many. Site traffic reduction cannot be pinned down to any one thing. This is on top of the fact that we still have a pretty active scene. Other places, such as Gamersyde and Gamefaqs, have seen a far steeper decline in activity over the years.
Once the new consoles are set to launch, traffic will increase in a substantial way.
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I agree. I don't see any major issue here. Personally, I feel that I'll post more as soon as PS5 comes out and I believe that's the case for many.
We need new industry stuff to discuss. New hardware specs, the ray tracing thing, how nsw will go on with the new consoles, a new nsw, pokemon sales will be super interesting to see, anyway. Lots of stuff that will be willing to discuss and talk about soon or next year.
ktay95 said:
Cant expect this place to be active when theres rarely ever worthwhile conversations to be had 🤷
Whenever I come back all I see is non gaming stuff or fanboy BS, shit when I find a thread that seems interesting it usually just ends up being filled with petty drama and arguing anyway
The website has an identity crisis, the place is dated but the conversation lends itself to the younger generation who have the time to waste with online video game drama. |
Creating worthwhile threads is everyone's mission. You can help improve that if you open new good threads yourself. I'm not bashing you, that's true for myself too. I wish I had more ideas to open worthwhile conversations here. I don't contribute much either.
Nautilus said:
I think two more points should be noted: Competition and fatigue.Ill name people just for the sake of giving examples, I dont mean to fight or to provoke anyone.
Competition is pretty obvious.Discord have sucked alot of traffic from (probably) alot of forums, since it is more convenient for alot of people.
But I think that, at least for VGC, fatigue is the biggest problem of all.Not necessarily from the forum itself, but rather from its users.Its hard to explain, but I think that everyone who has been here at least two years or so understand the feeling its ideas being dismissed or disliked, of ideas that you are so passioned about and people brushing it off or being agressive.
And I mean, thats no one fault.I think we all here are passionate about a game or another, and about one or two topics.And the same will be true about the opossite, about people being completely oppossed about a stance or another.That on itself isnt a problem.Most of the users can take the hit and move on, or understands that its all a discussion and thats how things work.But then it happens one time.Then two.Then five.Then 10 times.By the time you noticed, you are either so used to the forum or so tired of your opinions being either treated as "garbage" or stupid, that you either lash out, or get tired of participating.
Just to give an example of this:I am certainly part of this trend, having recently discussed with Chazore on a similar level, when he made the topic about Epic buying Psyonix.I am one that dosent care that much about PC gaming(though I do play on PC) and favor more consoles, and Chazore is one that loves PC and(and thats my impression) cares little if nothing about consoles.So obviosly we didnt see eye to eye.But since I already had an history with him, here and on discord, I already started the discussion with my left foot.And while it was wrong, I will admit I enjoyed it.And I think thats one of the biggest problems of this forum.People, myself included, eventually takes things personally.I have been blocked off from Versus profile, I have been called a Nintendo fanboy worse than goodnightschroom(I think thats his name) by Pokoko(why, only god knows).
And that accumulates.And people stop discussing with you, with your threads.And you do the same.And thus the cycle continues.Thats why new users are so important, but they are not joining by the reasons people have already stated here.
I dont know, I dont think VGC is that bad in terms of engagement, but yeah we arent as active as Resetera.But I think thats also the reason why you feel as you do about this forum Zuzek, being so small that you know most users.
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I've been to discord and I've got no clue how to have discussions on that. For me it's just a chat, not a discussion platform.
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