I thought Orville was bad, but then...

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SvennoJ said:

Pemalite said:
The Orville is great. It is pushing modern issues like Gender re-assignment, Sexuality, Feminism and so on... But wrapping that in a Star-Trek themed comedy.
Although... If I hear another marriage/cheating joke I might just scream at someone in 47 different french languages.

It's visuals are also decent for what it is... The story however doesn't seem to be building up to anything right now, that might change in a few more episodes as they may just be building out the characters.

Now Star Trek: Discovery is a visual treat for a Television show, I am keen to see where they take that show going forward, it is certainly playing homage to the theatrical films... I did enjoy the first two action packed episodes that's for sure... We haven't really had much in the way of a truly amazing Sci-Fi show since Star Trek, Firefly, Star Gate and Battlestar Galactica all wound down.

Have you watched The Expanse? Can't wait until season 3. Much more interesting plot lines than 4 year war with the Klingons. Dark matter has its moments as well. It didn't start great either so I'll give SD a chance. At least SD has a budget to do big things. I hope they don't waste it.

I like the expanse as TV-show, but I actually like the books more. Kinda a Song of Ice and Fire situation.