WWII Thread (How come the West never gives the Soviets the credit they deserve)

[MrBubbles]

Sharu said:

Its so strange to see so much hate to the Russians... Hey guys, do you know that the cold war was finished 22 years ago?
And also some more thoughts.

1. Hitler's/Nazi crimes was shown to the world by the international court in Nurnburg (?). It was not made any real investigations regarding Stalin. He's not a criminal - don't forget you cannot blame person without court decision - its one of the main law principles.
Yes, it is some BOOKS that say that he killed millions of people. No proof.
It is some BOOKS that say he killed not so much people and all of them was Western spies. No proof.

Truth, as always, is somewhere in the middle.

But you can't blame somebody blindly, without proof!

2. Holodomor. If you check - you'd see, that it wasn't something against Ukraine's people. It was a famine. People was dying in Russia, Ukraine, Khazahstan. And people was dying of hunger in USA at the great depression. Is it also Soviets fault?

3. I cant say for everybody, but now after 20 years in EU, Litva, Latvia and Estonia are in a much bigger mess then they was at Soviet times.

We can continue this discussion if you'd want, but please can you lower the degree of hate toward us. Russians are the same people as US,UK, Norway, etc... Don't be silly and dont afraid of Russian Ivan! :)

im conflicted...should i be amused or saddened that you feel a discussion about soviet atrocities are direct attacks against russians?

although perhaps if your leaders accepted the cold war was done and over, didnt try to treat neighbours as vassal states, werent so corrupt, didnt make comments about how wonderful the soviet union was(and wish for its return), stopped with their cold war propaganda, didnt murder critics, and didnt fund armed groups in neighbours with the purpose of gaining control over their territory....then perhaps you wouldnt percieve such unpleasantness from people.

and frankly, if YOU would look into the holodomor genocide you would see that it was man-made event. stop with your bs soviet propaganda, im surprised you even acknowledged the famine ever even happened.