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You concerned yet?

Yes 75 47.17%
 
No, but I will be followi... 48 30.19%
 
No, its being overblown 36 22.64%
 
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Phoenix20 said:
People need to stop believing the hype of the Corona Virus, the media has blow this out of proportion. The recent losses on the share market are just a correction and there is no need to panic. The media over hype of Corona Virus is creating worry, panic, fear and anxiety. Stay calm, just ignore the hype, business as usual.

You are right! It only hit 56 countries by now, pretty much all experts (Not the media) say that this is very serious and companies like Apple already said that they will lose billions in revenue because of the virus (and that even before it hit so many countries).

I'm sure the stock market has only a little correction because of the too great last years and that all these experts have no idea *cough



SpokenTruth said:
Jumpin said:

That’s not at all a low death rate, that’s 10% of people who have cleared the illness.

If 40-70% of people catch it (no idea how that Harvard guy got those numbers, or why he thinks it can’t be contained) then that’s potentially a half billion deaths.

I calculate a current recovery rate of 34.39%, not 10%.  And a current death rate of 3.37% (deaths per confirmed cases method).

I'm talking about people where the disease has run its course, 10% of them are dead.



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John2290 said:
crissindahouse said:

Not sure what you try to tell us. Most people traveling around will be tourists and businessmen/woman. No idea how you think that Brexit doesn't seem to be such a bad idea If it comes to stuff like this virus. 

I will visit the UK just like like before. And If you can stay 3 months or 50 years in a country won't really change much how this virus spreads

They can lock their borders at any call now on a national level. Can't be done for EU members without parliamentary approval which makes Europe one entire entity. 

Not true at all.

"The reintroduction of border control is a prerogative of the Member States. The Commission may issue an opinion with regard to the necessity of the measure and its proportionality but cannot veto such a decision if it is taken by a Member State."

https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/borders-and-visas/schengen/reintroduction-border-control_en



Barozi said:
John2290 said:

They can lock their borders at any call now on a national level. Can't be done for EU members without parliamentary approval which makes Europe one entire entity. 

Not true at all.

"The reintroduction of border control is a prerogative of the Member States. The Commission may issue an opinion with regard to the necessity of the measure and its proportionality but cannot veto such a decision if it is taken by a Member State."

https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/borders-and-visas/schengen/reintroduction-border-control_en

Thanks man, That puts my mind at ease a lot more. I was under the impression they had the last call and they are some of the most stubbron fuckers on the planet. Thanks for the correction. 



 

numberwang said:

Only a matter of time until we got "orange man bad" from the people who support open borders. If T starts blocking people from non-white countries they will call him racists, guaranteed.

https://www.businessinsider.de/international/coronavirus-death-age-older-people-higher-risk-2020-2/?r=US&IR=T

I think this is where Trump will fail. I don't like nor dislike Trump and tbh I wanna see him succeed as it makes everyones lives better if he doesn't outright fail in the things he takes on, esspecially i  foriegn policy. I think he has done a fantastic job up until now in most things and been a bit of a dickhead on a few minor issues, however I think he has met his match with this virus. With the measures he has taken so far it's clear he doesn't know what the fuck he is doing and I'm just a layman. He should have an epidemiologist at his right hand in tackling this and that team he put together is woefully under qualified for the job and outright laughable. This is the issue where he will most likely fail as he will try and protect the economy over safety for re-election and peoples lives will and most likely already have been put at majour risk. I hope I am wrong and as always will gladly give dues to him if he keeps this above board. I've doubted him in the past, The Korean situation for one, and he has almost always came out on top, leaving me impressed. I hope he does so again and the fools who wanna see him fail at their own detriment, take the politcs out of the issue for the sake of peoples health.

Last edited by John2290 - on 28 February 2020

 

Well it seems like I might not get paid next month (due to not working) thanks to this virus. So yeah, I'm not at all worried about "dying" from the virus but it's still probably gonna fuck me over



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Phoenix20 said:
People need to stop believing the hype of the Corona Virus, the media has blow this out of proportion. The recent losses on the share market are just a correction and there is no need to panic. The media over hype of Corona Virus is creating worry, panic, fear and anxiety. Stay calm, just ignore the hype, business as usual.

Follow the facts instead of the news
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

You most likely won't die, even the chance of getting seriously (critically) ill is less than 5%.
However 5% of the population being down for a month, most needing serious care, while the rest worries over their family members...

It will likely take until June, July to reach its peak. If it doesn't happen in a flash, people lose interest, business as usual.

Anyway when do you think it's time to prepare. When it exceeds the yearly death toll of the flu (56k)

5% to 20% of people get the flu each year, which only lasts a few days for most, most don't even stay home.
Coronavirus is estimated at being able to infect 40% to 70% of all people with 5% of those needing critical care.
Not business as usual.

And yep flu kills older people faster as well.

(Don't think it kills women more than men, women have a higher avg life span, thus higher total in the older brackets)

Anyway, yearly flu shots are not there for nothing. It will still be a year to 18 months to get a coronavirus shot.



Whenever the Covid-19 shot is available, they should combine it with the common flu one. One shot for both.
Imagine having to get 2 separate shots each year.



numberwang said:
Hiku said:

No one ever suggested open boarders. That's an unsubstantiated talking point.
And you're equating restricting entry from virus infected areas to restrictions based on ethnicity?

You're reaching here just to pick a fight with people over things no one said.
And it's not the first time you've done this.

When Trump restricted travel from China some weeks ago, most of the press couldn't remind as fast enough how racist travel restrictions really are. A small sample:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/04/coronavirus-us-quarantine-travel-ban-response

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/02/trump-response-coronavirus/606610/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/05/opinion/china-travel-coronavirus.html

Also CNN

https://twitter.com/cnnpolitics/status/1223307977723203587?lang=en

None of the articles said that it's racist. Rather that there are positive and negative consequences to consider with each action.
But even if one of the articles did, then at best you can call out that particular journalist for that particular remark. Don't make generalizations like that, which only serves to rile up people in the thread.

numberwang said:

Yes, most Dems and many Reps support de facto open borders (even if they avoid the term) by legalizing "illegal crossings". Even left-wing writers couldn't find a difference to "open borders" with the example of Warren's plan (which is quite representative).

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/07/are-democrats-now-the-party-of-open-borders/

I have previously criticized Republicans who accused liberals of wanting “open borders.” President Trump tweets about this endlessly. But I have to admit that it’s hard to see much daylight between Warren’s plan and de facto open borders.

They don't use the term because it's inaccurate, and meant to mislead people. The decriminalization you're referring to is to not have it be a criminal violation on top of a violation of civil immigration law. Which it would still be and handled by immigration courts. This is to not overwhelms federal courts, who have more urgent and serious crimes to handle, like terrorism and organized crime. 

Anyway, avoid terms you know are misleading, and derailing the thread into an unrelated political debate.
Now let's get back to discussing the Corona virus please.

Last edited by Hiku - on 28 February 2020