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Halo_Reach said:
Viper1 said:
Halo_Reach said:
Blacksaber said:
I love shipping compared to sales!


thats why i allowed for some difference- this isnt sony were talking about here- microsoft counts sales as shipped to the retailer...not the warehouse like sony- watch and see i bet the adjustment is 1.2 to 1.4 million up

In March 2007, Sony changed their policy regarding reported units "shipped"  from "shipped to warehouse" to "sold to retailer".

All 3 console makers now use this industry standard method.


thank you! i wish others could be as insightful as you- unfortunatly this site has alot of sony fanboys that are one dimensional in there thinking

i like how u mention sony fanboys when imo youre really coming off as an MS fanboy. claiming ms will be adjusted up and sony adjusted down. sounds  to me this is what you want but not what will really happen.



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Blacksaber said:
Halo_Reach said:
Viper1 said:
Halo_Reach said:
Blacksaber said:
I love shipping compared to sales!


thats why i allowed for some difference- this isnt sony were talking about here- microsoft counts sales as shipped to the retailer...not the warehouse like sony- watch and see i bet the adjustment is 1.2 to 1.4 million up

In March 2007, Sony changed their policy regarding reported units "shipped"  from "shipped to warehouse" to "sold to retailer".

All 3 console makers now use this industry standard method.


thank you! i wish others could be as insightful as you- unfortunatly this site has alot of sony fanboys that are one dimensional in there thinking

Calling people fanboys is against the rules...

If you call somebody a fanboy directly and not just referring to fanboys in general like the poster did.



CGI-Quality said:
Falcon204 said:
Vgchartz isn't the most reliable source but it does give a good indication to where sales might be. As a consumer sales are the most overrated piece of information there is so I wouldn't take it to heart.

I'm not sure of much better ones.

I dont remember saying there is better ones out there. So you might want to get your info right.



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CGI-Quality said:
Halo_Reach said:
Viper1 said:
Halo_Reach said:
Blacksaber said:
I love shipping compared to sales!


thats why i allowed for some difference- this isnt sony were talking about here- microsoft counts sales as shipped to the retailer...not the warehouse like sony- watch and see i bet the adjustment is 1.2 to 1.4 million up

In March 2007, Sony changed their policy regarding reported units "shipped"  from "shipped to warehouse" to "sold to retailer".

All 3 console makers now use this industry standard method.


thank you! i wish others could be as insightful as you- unfortunatly this site has alot of sony fanboys that are one dimensional in there thinking

I wouldn't go there if I were you.

its just an observation from various gaming forums



i dont get it.. when a sony fanboy complains about undertracking he is the most annoying person ever. but when a microsoft fanboy complains he thinks he is right?

bring in the facts and then make another thread.

ot: i think this site is reliable seeing as how everytime npd gets released they are within that number. nough said!



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Auron said:
Blacksaber said:
Halo_Reach said:
Viper1 said:
Halo_Reach said:
Blacksaber said:
I love shipping compared to sales!


thats why i allowed for some difference- this isnt sony were talking about here- microsoft counts sales as shipped to the retailer...not the warehouse like sony- watch and see i bet the adjustment is 1.2 to 1.4 million up

In March 2007, Sony changed their policy regarding reported units "shipped"  from "shipped to warehouse" to "sold to retailer".

All 3 console makers now use this industry standard method.


thank you! i wish others could be as insightful as you- unfortunatly this site has alot of sony fanboys that are one dimensional in there thinking

Calling people fanboys is against the rules...

If you call somebody a fanboy directly and not just referring to fanboys in general like the poster did.

Pretty much after his flaming this will be the lost blow to give him a ban. Now as a said before I should get out of here before I get re-depressed..



Former something....

I remember reading before on this site somewhere how it was indeed possible for over 2Million HW units to be on shelves.



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Falcon204 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Falcon204 said:
Vgchartz isn't the most reliable source but it does give a good indication to where sales might be. As a consumer sales are the most overrated piece of information there is so I wouldn't take it to heart.

I'm not sure of much better ones.

I dont remember saying there is better ones out there. So you might want to get your info right.

When you say something "isn't the most" it kind of implies that there ARE better ones out there.

I know, English is a b**** of a language sometimes.



Falcon204 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Falcon204 said:
Vgchartz isn't the most reliable source but it does give a good indication to where sales might be. As a consumer sales are the most overrated piece of information there is so I wouldn't take it to heart.

I'm not sure of much better ones.

I dont remember saying there is better ones out there. So you might want to get your info right.


If you do not like the site there is the door. The admins do the best they can to track the sales numbers of the hardware and software with the information they obtain from various sources. There is no need to attack the site's credibility 



The discrepancy between VGC's reported figure and Microsoft's sold to retailer figure are the nature of the beast and not due to any intentional number fudging on the part of the site.

Here are a few key facts to consider.

1. VGC can only estimate actual sales due simply to the impossibility of tracking every single sale across the globe. The methodology is similar to that of NPD, Chart-Track/GfK, Media Create and Famitsu. Poll a portion of the retail market and extrapolate.

2. Coverage. Microsoft sells the X360 to some markets that VGC does not cover.

3. Retail channel stuffing. In 2006, 2008 and so it appears this year as well, MS pushes out as many units as possible. Even more than consumer end retail can sustain.

4. Distributors. This is an industry segment not many consider. Technically, the big 3 don't sell directly to retailers but instead to distribution companies that then sell to retail. This is why MS can ship out more product that retail is willing to buy and stock and the largest reason for big discrepancies such as this.



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