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KungKras said:
yushire said:
trestres said:
It may look like this because IMO 2009 was perhaps the worst year ever from Nintendo supporting their own console. Add to that the fact that 2008 was really poor too and then you get this kinds of reactions.

Probably by 2010 everything will be OK, but what the OP said is not totally terrible, since the past 2 years have been abominably poor. And a lot of the games never made it to the USA on top of that.

 

 

Why did you bought a Wii then? if you really want core games and console FPS with pointer controls which isnt a port then wait MOAR. it will never happen. Buy a HD console instead if you want core games. And yeah, your predictions are too obvious look at my sig for predictions

Having genres underserved on a platform with a 50 million userbase, a control scheme much well suited for FPS games, and cheap development costs should simply not happen. I blame third parties.

 

 

just as what Nintendo will expect. Therell be a video game implosion and when the dust settles nintendo will survive and creating a new gaming industry. If 3rd parties dont want to cooperate THEN DONT. The gaming industry shouldnt focus on third parties anyway... Besides, there are developers in Nintendo they dont need third parties



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

There aren´t developers in Nintendo

Only toy fabricant´s



Wii users don't want "hardcore" titles as much as casual..So why should Square Enix,Thq,EA or any other company even try?
Nintendo is happy enough when they bring 1-3 Marios per year, and 1-3 Wii series,then sometimes Zeldas..And so they don't need to do much effort since it sells still more than other consoles.



 

 

Take my love, take my land..

360 owners dont want casual as much as hardcore. doesnt stop guitar hero and rock band form being successfull.

also do you think nointendo just givers the rest of their teams a year off if a casual title does well?




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The Op can't be serious can it? Firstly, what happened to mario?

Secondly, I never knew the Wii has ended production. So no more Zelda, Metroid, etc games, oh wait nvm the Wii still has games coming unlike the gamecube. The Wii also has been on the market less than the gamecube was. Let's ignore that though, we WANT Nintendo to not have any hardcore games to back them up so we can bitch about it.

And then, we have the idea to say Fire Emblem doesn't count because it wasn't developed with the Wii in mind. Oh and let's just ignore the Two Mario games, Sin & Punishment 2, Metroid Other M, Zelda Wii, Pikmin 3, and probably countless others that have yet to be released for the Wii. All we want to do is bitch about Nintendo until they make the next game that revolutionizes a genre.



yushire said:
KungKras said:
yushire said:
trestres said:
It may look like this because IMO 2009 was perhaps the worst year ever from Nintendo supporting their own console. Add to that the fact that 2008 was really poor too and then you get this kinds of reactions.

Probably by 2010 everything will be OK, but what the OP said is not totally terrible, since the past 2 years have been abominably poor. And a lot of the games never made it to the USA on top of that.

 

 

Why did you bought a Wii then? if you really want core games and console FPS with pointer controls which isnt a port then wait MOAR. it will never happen. Buy a HD console instead if you want core games. And yeah, your predictions are too obvious look at my sig for predictions

Having genres underserved on a platform with a 50 million userbase, a control scheme much well suited for FPS games, and cheap development costs should simply not happen. I blame third parties.

 

 

just as what Nintendo will expect. Therell be a video game implosion and when the dust settles nintendo will survive and creating a new gaming industry. If 3rd parties dont want to cooperate THEN DONT. The gaming industry shouldnt focus on third parties anyway... Besides, there are developers in Nintendo they dont need third parties

I think that too. Third parties hasn't done anything to sell hardware, all they do is tag along for the ride to sell their software. I actually think Yamauchi's vision of  the N64 with only quality games and third parties kept on a short leash would be better for gamers. Too bad about the choice of medium, and ... well other complications. but still, a console with only quality games and a strong first party ruler would probably be my favourite console since I buy few games and expect the games I buy to be good.



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The Wii has plenty of core games from Nintendo and their second partys that weren't originally designed for the GameCube.

Super Mario Galaxy (with a sequel on the way) - New Super Mario Bros Wii - Mario Kart Wii
Super Smash Bros Brawl - Disaster Day of Crisis - Wario Land: The Shake Dimension
PunchOut! - Excite Truck

Just because Fire Emblem, Super Paper Mario, Twilight Princess & Mario Party 8 started life as GC projects doesn't make them any less valid as proper core wii titles. Seem's like Wii has had plenty of core support from Nintendo to me. Remember they ressurected the Punchout! and Excite franchises on Wii. Don't forget Metroid and Zelda both have games designed from the ground up for Wii coming in 2010-11 and a new Pikmin is in development too. And I'm sure Mario Party 9 will be here soon enough. Oh and there's a little something called Sin & Punishment 2 as well. Core gaming is in great health on Wii. If you doon't think so then either your tastes have changed or you don't 'get' the console.



 

 

One look at Nintendo's financial status will show they have not invested too heavily into the expanded market. If they had just done a GC 2 the core still would be complaining and Nintendo would be in a much poorer state of financial health.



 

 

Rhonin the wizard said:
dizzydee_011 said:
largedarryl said:
TheConduit said:

As a long time Nintendo supported I enjoy all my Nintendo Consoles including my Wii.

As such I am rather confused by Nintendo's marketing strategy for the Wii.

For the Gamecube Nintendo showed alot of support over its short life despite the small size of the install base (22 million) with two star fox games, three Zelda games, a fire emblem games (designed for the console unlike the Wii Fire Emblem), Eternal Darkness, Two Pikmin Games, Two Metroid Games, FOUR mario Party Games and Kriby Air Ride.

Now the Wii  54 million install base three years after Launch has

One Zelda Game originally developed for the Gamecube

A fire emblem game ported to the Wii with lackluster visuals

No Eternal Darkness

Two Pikmin Ports

No Star Fox

One Metroid designed foe the Wii and one collection

One Mario Party Game designed for the Gamecube with gamecube visuals and poor motion controls

No Kirby Games

And a whole lot of games with Wii in the title.

Now does anyone think Nintendo has put to much of its resources into the casual market and neglected the hardcore fans many of whom stayed with Nintendo even through the Gamecube era?

Maybe there is a reason why the Gamecube only sold 22 million and the Wii is on its way to 100 million.  You should be well aware the "hardcore" gaming croud is small, but extremly vocal, giving the illusion that they are more important then they really are.

Yeah there is a reason on why the Wii is in first place.  Wii launch price $250 PS3 launch price $500 - $600.

A low price didn't help the GameCube. Or the Xbox 360 Arcade when it was cheaper than a Wii.


You didn't mention anything about when the PS3 dropped to $300 and it was outselling the Wii.  That's when Nintendo had to drop the price of the Wii, so yes price is everything.