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jesus kung fu magic said:
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Akvod said:
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ssj12 said:
I think this isn't a fair comparison because GT PSP doesn't need to run at an insane resolution like GT5 and Forza 3.

Now that trailer for GT5 vs Forza 3... there is no comparison. GT5 >>>>> Forza 3 especially in the car models.

Well of course it is , the GT trailer was cgi so.....

How do you know it's CGI?

Because they barely talked about the game , the game that is part their biggest franchise was treated as an after thought because all they showed for it was a teaser a cgi teaser at that.

You obviously haven't played GT Prologue on an HDTV because it looks like CGI all the time. Even when you're playing. Imagine that!

forza looks better than gt5p but your post proved absolutly nothing so why try?

forza? which one?



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Akvod said:
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jesus kung fu magic said:
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ssj12 said:
I think this isn't a fair comparison because GT PSP doesn't need to run at an insane resolution like GT5 and Forza 3.

Now that trailer for GT5 vs Forza 3... there is no comparison. GT5 >>>>> Forza 3 especially in the car models.

Well of course it is , the GT trailer was cgi so.....

How do you know it's CGI?

Because they barely talked about the game , the game that is part their biggest franchise was treated as an after thought because all they showed for it was a teaser a cgi teaser at that.

I still don't understand why you can conclusively, with all absolute confidence, that it is a FACT that the trailer was CGI?

Because unless sony is run by stoned out monkeys , it s practically imposible for sony to not hype a gameplay trailer for their BIGGEST game.(Especially with the forza "definitive racing game" stuff put on yesterday)

It's still not "impossible" like you said, it's only your suspcions based on the fact that you don't know what Sony's thinking and rationale (since you're not in the company). I'm asking you to show me concrete, objective proof how the trailer (or parts of it) were CGI, no matter how illogical you may think Sony is acting:

 

 

 

Why do you believe that it is gameplay?

Have I ever claimed it was gameplay? No. Now you're being caught red handed, trying to switch the topic at hand and put the attention on me.

You made a claim, and I simply asked your reason. I won't doubt it if at least some parts of it were CGI. I simply don't have the expertise to know it or not. On the other hand, because you made a claim, extremely confidently, you surely must have some expertise and concrete facts/proofs to show that the entire trailer or parts of it were CGI.

I'm simply a person asking questions, not making claims, not really debating, only pressing the same question that you keep avoiding.

First of all , you did not even put your point into the discussion so I assumed that your stance on the trailer was gameplay because of you trying to interogate me.

Secondly, I do believe that it is cgi because of the points I put above , and you dont need concrete proof to make an educated guess. Whos to stop me from saying gta 5 will release on the n-gage in september if we need concrete proof to say other wise?

And I answered your questions ,all of them. I honestly dont know what your trying to do but you know as well as I do that my points are valid so why continue this?

If somebody asks you a question, and presses for an actual reason when you avoided to give one, means they're opposed or hostile to you? I was never hostile to you, at most only annoyed that you kept avoiding answering my question. You use the word "interrogate" which I think is pretty excessive. Lets not play word games, and replace "ask" with "interrogate" to make me sound like I'm hostile. I'm sorry that I didn't forget my question, and continued to ask you to just answer it when you failed to do so the first time.

You needed concrete proof because you stated that it was a fact that the GT5 trailer was CGI. You didn't say "I think", "probably", etc. You said "Well of course it is , the GT trailer was cgi so....." That doesn't seem like an educated guess, to me.

I asked you to give me concrete objective evidence, in order to back up your statement that was presented as a fact. All you said was "It'll be weird/stupid for Sony not to hype up this game and trailer at E3". They're not valid, because as much as your argument might make sense to the common sense of many, they're not objective facts, which are needed to support factual statements. You can't just support a factual statement with opinions and perspectives.

So we can stop this now, as you've admitted that you don't have concrete evidence, and you never meant to say that the GT5 trailer was CGI as a fact, and you actually meant to say it as a guess. It's a simple and common mistake of mispeaking/typing, just say from the beginning "Oh, I didn't mean to say it as a fact, it's just my opinion/guess", instead of wasting a few posts before saying that.

LMFAOOO

It's CGI dude, wow. You really think sony would pass up a chance to gloat, especially with their trying to one up microsoft with their motion control? The guy saying, "this isn't video, it's all real live tech demo" crap. I understand you're strongest argument is that there's been no confirmation that it's CGI, but it is much more logical and likely that if a video is shown and no one announces what type of footage it i, it's definitely not gameplay!! Maybe game engine video....still VERY VERY unlikely.

How many times have you seen a dev or company not tout their gameplay vids and even in game engine vids????

Sony is in no position to not hype what they have to the highest possible level.

My guess is that sony didn't make clear if this is game engine video or not to hold interest over and make people like you believe absurd things like it being gameplay. Especially knowing that this goddamn game is still not releasing soon.



haxxiy said:
GT portable: 480x272 30fps
Forza 3: 1280x720 30(?)fps
Gran Turismo 5: 1280x1080 60fps

Nuff said.

i would've swore that GT PSP was 60fps.  Could be wrong tho.



Akvod said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
Akvod said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
Akvod said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
Akvod said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
Akvod said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
ssj12 said:
I think this isn't a fair comparison because GT PSP doesn't need to run at an insane resolution like GT5 and Forza 3.

Now that trailer for GT5 vs Forza 3... there is no comparison. GT5 >>>>> Forza 3 especially in the car models.

Well of course it is , the GT trailer was cgi so.....

How do you know it's CGI?

Because they barely talked about the game , the game that is part their biggest franchise was treated as an after thought because all they showed for it was a teaser a cgi teaser at that.

I still don't understand why you can conclusively, with all absolute confidence, that it is a FACT that the trailer was CGI?

Because unless sony is run by stoned out monkeys , it s practically imposible for sony to not hype a gameplay trailer for their BIGGEST game.(Especially with the forza "definitive racing game" stuff put on yesterday)

It's still not "impossible" like you said, it's only your suspcions based on the fact that you don't know what Sony's thinking and rationale (since you're not in the company). I'm asking you to show me concrete, objective proof how the trailer (or parts of it) were CGI, no matter how illogical you may think Sony is acting:

 

 

 

Why do you believe that it is gameplay?

Have I ever claimed it was gameplay? No. Now you're being caught red handed, trying to switch the topic at hand and put the attention on me.

You made a claim, and I simply asked your reason. I won't doubt it if at least some parts of it were CGI. I simply don't have the expertise to know it or not. On the other hand, because you made a claim, extremely confidently, you surely must have some expertise and concrete facts/proofs to show that the entire trailer or parts of it were CGI.

I'm simply a person asking questions, not making claims, not really debating, only pressing the same question that you keep avoiding.

First of all , you did not even put your point into the discussion so I assumed that your stance on the trailer was gameplay because of you trying to interogate me.

Secondly, I do believe that it is cgi because of the points I put above , and you dont need concrete proof to make an educated guess. Whos to stop me from saying gta 5 will release on the n-gage in september if we need concrete proof to say other wise?

And I answered your questions ,all of them. I honestly dont know what your trying to do but you know as well as I do that my points are valid so why continue this?

If somebody asks you a question, and presses for an actual reason when you avoided to give one, means they're opposed or hostile to you? I was never hostile to you, at most only annoyed that you kept avoiding answering my question. You use the word "interrogate" which I think is pretty excessive. Lets not play word games, and replace "ask" with "interrogate" to make me sound like I'm hostile. I'm sorry that I didn't forget my question, and continued to ask you to just answer it when you failed to do so the first time.

You needed concrete proof because you stated that it was a fact that the GT5 trailer was CGI. You didn't say "I think", "probably", etc. You said "Well of course it is , the GT trailer was cgi so....." That doesn't seem like an educated guess, to me.

I asked you to give me concrete objective evidence, in order to back up your statement that was presented as a fact. All you said was "It'll be weird/stupid for Sony not to hype up this game and trailer at E3". They're not valid, because as much as your argument might make sense to the common sense of many, they're not objective facts, which are needed to support factual statements. You can't just support a factual statement with opinions and perspectives.

So we can stop this now, as you've admitted that you don't have concrete evidence, and you never meant to say that the GT5 trailer was CGI as a fact, and you actually meant to say it as a guess. It's a simple and common mistake of mispeaking/typing, just say from the beginning "Oh, I didn't mean to say it as a fact, it's just my opinion/guess", instead of wasting a few posts before saying that.

I have answered your questions but you keep trying to change them to be within the context of hypothetical(and frankly impossible) situations. Its not my problem if you ignore what I'm saying but at least disagree with them and not act like they dont exist.

And yes quite frankly your interogating me , your singling me out of everyone who is saying its cgi or gameplay making it seem what im saying is any different from them.

It is extremely  common in the gaming industry for trailers not talked about alot being cgi , its nothing new and I dont know why your even argueing with this.

Of course there is no concrete evidence that but the way I see it , its fact>logic>being illogical , there is no fact that its not cgi but it is definitely logical to say its cgi with the points I put above and definitely illogical to say otherwise. So until it is proven other wise , that teaser was cgi with touched up replay videos.



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ssj12 said:
im almost certain that part of the GT5 trailer was CGI and some wasn't. Actually scratch that I am 100% certain it was. You can tell if you watch it in HD video.

It is the same style GT5P and GTHD's trailers were. Part CGI and part gameplay.

Forza 3's trailer I'm not sure on, I think it was completely CGI due to what was going on in the posted video in this thread. I just wont say that any other trailers out there are.

The Forza 3 trailer was constructed with the video editor from the game. 



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GT portable looks amazing, something id never had imagined but seeing that Forza 3 trailer, the winner is easily Forza 3. Still though GT Portable looks VERY good.




haxxiy said:
GT portable: 480x272 60fps
Forza 3: 1280x720 60fps
Gran Turismo 5: 1280x1080 60fps

Nuff said.

^fixed. 



Amazing - yes

Better than forza 3 - probably not


Gran Turismo 5 will be though.



I'd say you were joking, and still do after seeing the video. Yes, it's absolutely beatiful, however pretty much any decent-looking game is when it's not direct feed. This one has been taken with a camera.

But yes, it does look great.



Haha, look at all the "Xbots" trying to claim that GT5 trailer was CGI. STFU seriously. This is the PS3, it can produce graphics like this for fun. I mean i remember when people were saying Heavy Rain couldn't be done, now look. I bet the 360 could produce graphics like this if it had the right finincal backing and a talanted devolper, but if that were the case, the Xbots would be quick to change their mind and say, "No, it's gameplay all right". Its okay that your jealous because its funny to watch you moan and bitch.

As for GT PSP looking good as Forza 3, well, it looks good, but truth be told, its not THAT good. Sure it looks fuckin amazing for a handheld game, not question about that, but not as good as Forza 3.

Bottom line. GT5 will obliterate Forza 3, there is no point argueing about this. Graphics it is better, game play it is better, sales wise it will do better, the game will be bigger and more diverse than Forza. This is like argueing Resistance is better than COD4, uhh no. COD4 was better in like nearly everyway apart from scale.