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Gamerace said:
mike_intellivision said:
The only reason that I got it so quickly is that I picked it up as part of a special Target promotion this week (Buy 2, Get 1 Free -- all Wii games $14.99 to $49.99).

And since I had been wanting to get Shaun White, I decided to take a chance on Madworld (though I have yet to had the chance to play it).

I actually started two threads about the decision to first not buy, then to buy the game.

For most Wii owners, T-titles are going to sell much better. They are the mainstream. Not the "core" gamer who likes the M-rated game.

Mike from Morgantown

 

 Actually I don't think it's the 'M' rating in and of itself, it's the ridiculous amount of swearing and violence in these Sega titles that are a problem for anyone with kids (or a wife...).   It's just not appropriate for a living room experience.   However RE:Darkside Chronicles or Dead Space will likely do much better (not because it's online) because people won't mind playing them in front of older kids / wives, etc.

The Conduit should do much better.    I also think MadWorld will show legs at the $30 price point.

I agree, I actually don't think content ratings (at least in the US) actually have much of an effect on sales because they really don't do a good job of reflecting the amount of objectionable content. Think about this, both Manhunt and Halo are rated M for Mature. Seriously, they both have the same age rating. A game with minor swearing, nothing sexual, and a level of violence I would place only slightly above your average Star Wars movie has the same age rating as a another game about a convicted serial killer whose forced to help a psychopath make his own personal snuff films by murdering neo-nazis and sadists.

And for people trying to blaming this on the Wii, what system would this have sold better on?

Madworld is a black and white ultra-violent immature fuck fest made by people who use to be Clover, a studio whose unique games almost always sold poorly, even on the PS2. It’s incredibly short, even by modern standards, lack replay value, and only had a modest advertising campaign.

I know the HD consoles have a big install base for action games, but be reasonable here. It would also probably be $10 more and lack the Wii Remote controls on the HD twins, so how much better would really sell?

 



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It is becasue Sega hasn't publishing/distribute the game as it should be.



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MasterZack said:
It is becasue Sega hasn't publishing/distribute the game as it should be.

 

 I have to disagree with this.  I thought Sega spent a ton of marketing dollars on this game with TV ads, viral web videos, all kinds of cool images (like my pic) and tons of hype.   I can't convince what more you'd have wanted for this game.



 

Gamerace said:
MasterZack said:
It is becasue Sega hasn't publishing/distribute the game as it should be.

 

 I have to disagree with this.  I thought Sega spent a ton of marketing dollars on this game with TV ads, viral web videos, all kinds of cool images (like my pic) and tons of hype.   I can't convince what more you'd have wanted for this game.

That works for your country/region, but not in mine. I haven't seen anything you say. Besides, any store (and i live in a city with more than 1.5 habitants) has this game yet... :(

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Gamerace said:
mike_intellivision said:
The only reason that I got it so quickly is that I picked it up as part of a special Target promotion this week (Buy 2, Get 1 Free -- all Wii games $14.99 to $49.99).

And since I had been wanting to get Shaun White, I decided to take a chance on Madworld (though I have yet to had the chance to play it).

I actually started two threads about the decision to first not buy, then to buy the game.

For most Wii owners, T-titles are going to sell much better. They are the mainstream. Not the "core" gamer who likes the M-rated game.

Mike from Morgantown

 

 Actually I don't think it's the 'M' rating in and of itself, it's the ridiculous amount of swearing and violence in these Sega titles that are a problem for anyone with kids (or a wife...).   It's just not appropriate for a living room experience.   However RE:Darkside Chronicles or Dead Space will likely do much better (not because it's online) because people won't mind playing them in front of older kids / wives, etc.

The Conduit should do much better.    I also think MadWorld will show legs at the $30 price point.


I agree, but I don't agree with the $30 price point thing.  I love "M" games.  Gruesome justice for bad guys/monsters of all forms is right up my alley.  I own dozens of these kinds of games -- no joke.  I will never buy MadWorld -- even I see it as senseless ultraviolence coupled with ridiculous swearing, and that just doesn't interest me.  I wouldn't buy it on the PS360 at $10, and I bought the recent Golden Axe at $30, and enjoyed it too.  I *might* buy MadWorld at $5 -- maybe.

You could claim this is anecdotal, and it of course is, but I think there's no justification for believing MadWorld will have legs at all.  Its a flop because of its presentation, to what would be it normal demographics, and because it doesn't try to appeal to anyone else either.

I only point this out because it will actually be interesting to see if MadWorld does have legs, and it would be pointless to discuss it after the "results are in", really.  I think you have to have general audience appeal to have legs.  MadWorld will be an extreme example of sales front-loading, just like its an extreme example of the action genre -- and those two concepts, I believe, are quite closely tied.  It will be fascinating to see the next few weeks, however.

 



 

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I saw it marked for clearance @ $54 Canadian in the local Walmart. Can anyone confirm if this chain wide?



StiC said:
I saw it marked for clearance @ $54 Canadian in the local Walmart. Can anyone confirm if this chain wide?

 

 

It launched at $55 Cdn.  $54 sounds like typical Walmart pricing not a clearance.

It's cheaper than that at Amazon.ca



 

Words Of Wisdom said:
Didn't we already have this thread like a week ago?

 

Yup, and this one came right on schedule. Expect the next one in 3-4 days.



Ryudo said:

Why was such a shit game like Haze put in the same breath as Madworld,haze sold badly because it just sucks.
I played it and it was terrible.

Madworld has low sales numbers just simply because ex clover members never make things for mainstream.
I never expected huge numbers and people complaining about length..well many of these HD games are 10hrs or less and 60$. plus it's a beat em up,they are not supposed to be long.

Okami is over 40hrs go play that if you want long.



Then when a game is over 10hrs people complain how they don't have time anymore for more lengthy games...so seems people are just going to bitch eitherway.

 

Total agreement.

 

Madworld will continue to sell for quite some time, as word of mouth spreads. Much like CoD5. I think it will outsell No More Heroes, and that game is getting a sequel. (Thank the gods.)

 



 

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I'd be pretty amazed if MadWorld worked better than No More Heroes, seriously, which imho is bigger