Reasons it will not.

Wiis technology = inferior everything compared to the competition.

Far inferior graphics.
Much Smaller environments.
Alot less characters on screen.
Inferior Ai/physics.
Alot less animation.
WAy inferior online.

As developers get better on the PS3 and 360, wii games will look worse ad worse. Even nintendo can barely make their wii games look much better then the Gamecube ones. Theres no magic wiimote to wave and make them better then the wii hardware will allow.

Most devs have big ideas for gaming this gen, those ideas cant be done on the wii. Most developers don't even know what to do with the wii yet, all they are doing is craping out mediocre games.


1st party games have been lacking, most are this mini game nongame casusl stuff, nintendo is pissing of alot of hardcore/core gamers and by what they showed at E3 they seriously don't care anymore. They got what 3 legit games coming this year Metroid/Galaxy/SSBB now compare that to what MS or Sony will have and Nintendo get killed on the software side of things.

3rd party are still not backing the wii, none are taking their big franchises to the wii. They are still sticking with the PS3 360 and PC.

PS2s software lineup all out dominated the competition. Wiis software does not.

Maybe it can hit PS sales numbers, maybe if the market grows enough this gen.

Eh, just ignore Celb.

No, he said something Anti-Nintendo, it's Rol's duty to attack him.

I would write up a long explanation, but I'll just put it at this:

Why did the NES sell 60 million, but the SNES only sell 50?

Competition from the Genesis and TG16.

Even if the Wii were the victor of the "console wars" (remember that it's nothing more than a marketing ploy, have some dignity), it would be unlikely to sell more than 100 million units like the PS2 did. There's just far too much competition from the PS3 and Xbox 360 this time around.

This may sound ridiculous to some of you, but the Wii is JUST a game system. Sure, it has some tacky features like a News Channel, Weather Channel, etc., but there's no real reason to buy it besides as a game console. The PS2 could be used as a DVD player, and that lured millions of consumers.

Some might claim that it would just be cheaper to buy a DVD player. True, but you could get a game console for your kids and a DVD player to watch movies all in one inexpensive choice. It was a must have.

The Wii is opening up to larger demographics, but until it is at a price tag of less than $200, it is unlikely to sell at numbers like the PS2.

Well put, but don't worry they'll tell you that NO ONE used their PS2 to play DVDs. Also, when the PS2 came out it was a "cheap" DVD player.

As for the title of the thread, it says best selling piece of hardware? Like it's going to outsell toasters? computers? cell phones? I know thats not what you meant, but still.

No, I do not believe the Wii is likely to outsell the PS2, though it will do very well. During it's lifetime the Wii will most likely outsell both the PS3 and 360, but it's life will be shorter than either of those systems, so overall I don't think it will sell the absolute most. The WiiToo will come out by them and be posed to still compete with the PS3 and 360. HD will be more relevant than many will admit. I've tried to explain before that the switch to upgrade to HD is faster than any other adoption in TV history, faster than b&w to color or VHS to DVD. Feel free to argue with me though.

I have to disagree with you Ben. There are atleast 5 posts on this thread where others made that exact same example you just gave in regards to PS2's higher defect rate. By your definition of trolling they are as much guilty as he was.

I see his comment as his opinion. Granted he is poking N-boys but, not so different that N-boys poke him.

Do you really think it will take N that long to reduce the price of the Wii $50? As soon as MS announces a core package for $200-$250 the Wii will be at $150-200. It will always be $50+ less than the lease expensive MS 360.

So the Wii is 50 Euros less? I still think if N will always keep Wii at the lowest price point by a decent margin. I don't see how your example negates my hypothesis. Now, the 360 premium is actualy priced pretty nicely as compared to the Wii in that example, but, N will always ensure it is less. Especially if they see the compitition gaining in units sold vs. the Wii always having a definate sales lead.

True. It wouldn't make sense to drop price if it is still sold out. I think my assumption would be that N would have to notice a drop in sales and have stock actually sitting in the retail channel.

Saying something needs to be replaced every few years is quite different from a defect rate. While it's not so much a fact, it is reconized that a large % of people have purchased more than 1 PS2 and not because they wanted one in each room. If the Wii has a similar lifetime, causing many to need to repurchase it every 3-4 years, it adds numbers to sales. The 360 defect issues are quite different because they happen at a much earlier time so they're still under warranty or barely out when the death ring shows up. And it is an actual issue with the way the system is put together so in reality, all the systems are really defected and more than likely the number of dead 360s will only be shockingly high come 3-4 years after the initial release. Needing to purchase something every few years isn't looked down upon by most. Constant use will cause a lot of electronic equipment to need replacement.

Overall, Nintendo's systems have stood the test of time so they may not get an unnatural boost from systems dying after a few years. However, I really think the Wii will have these issues. I have a feeling the suction loading is going to start failing on people after some time. Generally, discs that are not the standard size are not allowed to be used with suction loading drives. It's one of the major reasons I thought the design was a fake when the information first showed up on the web. 

I'm certainly not saying I disagree with your assesment of the game as I haven't played one since it was called Dragon Warrior on the NES in the USA, but 15 hours? That's not that much shorter than people could do RE4, and people still liked it. I guess as also discussed, it can come down to replay value, but I don't consider that to be too horribly short of a time. As a note, I do play some long RPGs as well, but I can still appreciate shorter games.

As for the the Wii becoming the best selling system, both sides do have good arguements. I'd have to go with hoping it'll reach higher than the PS2 as the new markets emerge. You can take that as any mix of China, India, population growth, casuals, or any other market you'd like to think of expanding.