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Abortion in the 3rd trimester: if they waited that long, they should have it. Unless it's going to kill the mother. At that point hopefully they can C-section it out prematurely and get it to live.
Prostitution: should be legal.
Scuicide: should be legal. What are you gonna do, arrest them?
Assisted suicide: only legal when the suicidal can't do it themselves.
Euthanasia: already legal. We have living wills for that. People get to make the choice in advance.

There you go!



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Awesome! Now if we can get a country ran by you I can be able to do crack with a paralyzed, pregnant hooker while we both drive drunkenly into a tree.

Unfortunately though, I would probably live and would be charged with a DUI.



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Bursche said:
Awesome! Now if we can get a country ran by you I can be able to do crack with a paralyzed, pregnant hooker while we both drive drunkenly into a tree.

Unfortunately though, I would probably live and would be charged with a DUI.

Sounds awesome. Except I don't remember reading about paralyzed hookers, and she could easily get rid of that unwanted pregnancy with an abortion. And since Rubang said he was against drunk driving, I don't know what's with your last point and sentence. Ahh well, I just got a gyro and orange juice so I'm going to feel good after eating them.

*Takes bite from gyro*

Mmmmm, that's the good stuff.

 



 

 



Um... what?
I said doing drugs and driving should be illegal. That is not a victimless crime. You can kill OTHER people that way, that did not consent to the danger and risk of injury and death. Messing with OTHER people is bad. Messing with YOURSELF should be fine.



And why can't a paralyzed person be a hooker too? I sense some hostility towards the disabled here. Besides, it might be easier for them if they can't feel it. Easy money.



MontanaHatchet said:
Bursche said:
Awesome! Now if we can get a country ran by you I can be able to do crack with a paralyzed, pregnant hooker while we both drive drunkenly into a tree.

Unfortunately though, I would probably live and would be charged with a DUI.

Sounds awesome. Except I don't remember reading about paralyzed hookers, and she could easily get rid of that unwanted pregnancy with an abortion. And since Rubang said he was against drunk driving, I don't know what's with your last point and sentence. Ahh well, I just got a gyro and orange juice so I'm going to feel good after eating them.

*Takes bite from gyro*

Mmmmm, that's the good stuff.

 

Well you see, since prostitution is legal, I can hook up with a hooker. And since she is paralyzed and concents, I can drive into a tree for both my suicide and her assisted suicide.

But I would probably live through all of that, and when the police come, they will ignore all of it except the alcohol. Thus I get a DUI. She might be charged too if she lives, but thats because she wasn't wearing her seatbelt.  

 



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Well then that would be your fault for driving into a tree, when you could use a painless suicide method that leaves no blood, and no chance of survival with horrible mutilation or retardation.

You strap a mask to your mouth, duct tape it on, lie on a big stack of pillows so you don't fall over when you pass out, and hook it up to a helium tank and turn it on. You fall asleep from lack of oxygen, giggling. You die in your sleep.

It's cheap, effective, and doesn't leave brains everywhere to traumatize those who find your body, and you don't have to kill your car too.



The Ghost of RubangB said:
Well then that would be your fault for driving into a tree, when you could use a painless suicide method that leaves no blood, and no chance of survival with horrible mutilation or retardation.

You strap a mask to your mouth, duct tape it on, lie on a big stack of pillows so you don't fall over when you pass out, and hook it up to a helium tank and turn it on. You fall asleep from lack of oxygen, giggling. You die in your sleep.

It's cheap, effective, and doesn't leave brains everywhere to traumatize those who find your body, and you don't have to kill your car too.

 

 I'm doing harmful drugs and practices in this imaginary tale, I dont really think after all that I would care who found me, or if it hurt them, or my car.

Cause you see, even if we all have the right to do whatever we want to our bodies, doesn't mean it doesn't have negative effects that harm others. That is why some drugs are illegal, why prostitution is generally illegal, and assisted suicide is illegal. Abortion might have to do with whether a woman wants to have a child, but if she aborts, she psychologically and sometimes physically harms herself, and destroys a potential life.

I'm tired though so I'm outtie.



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You're mistaken if you believe our drug laws have anything to do with harming other people.

Alcohol is the most dangerous drug on the planet.

It's so bad we actually made it illegal through an amendment to the Constitution, which is pretty fucking weird for a drug law.

Making it illegal caused so much crime that we repealed it and made it legal again.

Nowadays the cool drug to hate is cigarettes. But we're smart enough this time around to not make them illegal. Now we just tax the fuck out of the addicts, and tell kids it's dumb. But if they're dumb enough to smoke, more power to 'em. Doesn't hurt me in my own house.

Now maybe, just maybe, a lot of our other crime is caused by other drugs being illegal.

I think harming other people is bad. I think drinking is not bad. There is a chance that somebody drinking might lead them to harm somebody else. Do we make it illegal to have the drink or illegal to do the harm? If we make it illegal to have the drink, that infringes on the rights of some guy drinking alone who doesn't hurt anybody.

Besides, gangs get all their money from drugs, and if you make drugs legal, there goes gang money. There goes gang power. There goes gangs. They go back to just beating each other up, and not running drugs and shooting everybody.


Currently psilocybin mushrooms are illegal, but salvia is not. They're both natural hallucinogens that can grow in California. Salvia's legal and you can buy it online or in smokeshops. However, it is 10 times more intense than mushrooms. So why's it legal? Neither are unhealthy or dangerous.

We only call marijuana marijuana (instead of cannabis) because the U.S. government wanted to give it a Spanish name to scare racists away from the Mexicans, and to make it look like it was the Mexican (and black) drug of choice.

Give me a drug law, and I'll give you some racism or weird business monopoly or funky politics behind the law. It's never about health. If it was about health, marijuana (one of the safest drugs) would be legal, and alcohol (one of the deadliest drugs) would be illegal.



There are more countries where you can do it legal.



A agree with the Ghost here.

Here is the easiest way to see this...

There should never be a law in the US to keep people from being stupid. Only to protect you from others. So smoking crack, while stupid, should be legal. Having an abortion before the embryo has rights, should be legal.

My feeling is somewhere around the third trimester, the fetus becomes a life, and thus has all the same rights as the rest of is (I personally pick when they thing can live on it's own as the date it has rights, but I can see where moving that up would make sense.)

THe big problem, with the above statements, is when people do some of these things, they become a burden to the rest of us (we pay to feed and house them). The part of being a free country, is you have the freedom to screw up. That only works if you also have to pay the consequences of your own actions. If you chose to smoke crack, and it leads to you becoming homeless, and dyeing on the street, so be it. You have the freedom to make those choices.

People say what about the kids. Remember when I said we have laws to protect you from others. That also applies to protecting you from your family. I think we should take care of children, at least to the point of feeding, housing, and educating them.