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RolStoppable said:
brawl4life said:
hahaha braggert ! I won 4 times !


Remember how big the margins were between us when I won and how big they were when you won.
"Ask any racer, any real racer. It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning.  "The Fast and the Furious    besides I won by a good margin on Mario Circuit GCN

 



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RolStoppable said:

NJ5 is correct, you are a troll. You haven't played the game and take the reviewers' word for it on how the game plays. Most reviewers didn't know how to play the game.

Look through this page of the thread again, you see several people pointing out that Mario Kart Wii MUST take skill or otherwise I wouldn't be able to win so many races. Everything points to the reviewers being wrong and if you want to challenge this conclusion, there's a simple way to do this: Play against me.


Unfortunately, looking at his post history it doesn't even seem like he has a Wii. So "surprisingly", history will repeat itself and no match will happen.

 



My Mario Kart Wii friend code: 2707-1866-0957

RolStoppable said:
Dragon007 said:
NJ5 said:

If that's the way you're going to reply to my attempts at explaining you something, then I have two things to tell you:

1- This discussion is over (I don't like trolls nor childish people)

2- In this forum you won't survive long with this kind of attitude, so change it if you want to stay.

 


Translation: I know i'm wrong so I don't want to continue this conversation.

You challenged my accusation and you were proven wrong.

Calling me a "troll"' when you instigated the debate isn't going to change anything. Get over it.

NJ5 is correct, you are a troll. You haven't played the game and take the reviewers' word for it on how the game plays. Most reviewers didn't know how to play the game.

Look through this page of the thread again, you see several people pointing out that Mario Kart Wii MUST take skill or otherwise I wouldn't be able to win so many races. Everything points to the reviewers being wrong and if you want to challenge this conclusion, there's a simple way to do this: Play against me.


It's not just the gaming sites, go read some user reviews.

Many of them claim the powerslide has been simplified.



RolStoppable said:
Dragon007 said:

It's not just the gaming sites, go read some user reviews.

Many of them claim the powerslide has been simplified.

The same people don't play against me after I post my friend code.

Btw, what do you think about my idea a post above yours?


Well I'm not him but I think it's great

 



My Mario Kart Wii friend code: 2707-1866-0957

RolStoppable said:
Dragon007 said:

It's not just the gaming sites, go read some user reviews.

Many of them claim the powerslide has been simplified.

The same people don't play against me after I post my friend code.

Btw, what do you think about my idea a post above yours?


First of all, I already said I don't have MKWii, so your challenge is empty.

And i'm not talking about VGChartz users, I don't expect anyone here to agree with me.

I'm talking about Gamespot, Gametrailers, IGN. Many of the reviews claim the powerslide has been simplified, including the official reviews themselves. Are you denying this?

 



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ummm different cars/bike/character combo has different power sliding/drifting abilities. My brother who good with the dolphindasher and drifts very well with it cannot drift worth shit with the bullet bike that I use.

 edit : forgot there an automatic or manual option which the game powerslide/drift for you or you can do it yourself.



RolStoppable said:
Dragon007 said:
RolStoppable said:
Dragon007 said:

It's not just the gaming sites, go read some user reviews.

Many of them claim the powerslide has been simplified.

The same people don't play against me after I post my friend code.

Btw, what do you think about my idea a post above yours?


First of all, I already said I don't have MKWii, so your challenge is empty.

And i'm not talking about VGChartz users, I don't expect anyone here to agree with me.

I'm talking about Gamespot, Gametrailers, IGN. Many of the reviews claim the powerslide has been simplified, including the official reviews themselves. Are you denying this?

I know that you don't own MKWii, that's why I said that a mod could take your place and race against me. If you really think that the official and user reviews speak the truth that Mario Kart Wii is a simplified game, you have nothing to fear and can pick a mod of your choice.

Oh, I see, a trick question. Of course I don't deny that reviews and users claimed that the powerslide has been simplified, because they did claim this very thing. But they are wrong with this assumption and that's what I and others are trying to tell you. As previously said, the best way to find out who is actually right, is to play the game.


Bold: Why in God's name would I even consider such a thing. I don't know any of the mods, nor can I look over the contest.

How are they wrong? Please explain it to me. From the description everyone is giving they've clearly simplified the powerslide, the learning curve is now much shorter. Sure it still requires some skill, just not as much as before.



Dragon, i think what NJ5 was saying about the powerslides (something i didn't even know until just now, which is a prime example of how a skilled player can difer from a novice player such as myself) is that depending on where on the curve of a track you powerslide, the boost is powered up faster, thus giving the skilled players a second or so at every turn, which can mean a lot in 12 player races.. hopefully you now understand what he was trying to say when you replied "noone knows what you are talking about" because i understood, and now i have a new tactic when i go online, of course i'll have to perfect it first



RolStoppable said:
tabsina said:
Dragon, i think what NJ5 was saying about the powerslides (something i didn't even know until just now, which is a prime example of how a skilled player can difer from a novice player such as myself) is that depending on where on the curve of a track you powerslide, the boost is powered up faster, thus giving the skilled players a second or so at every turn, which can mean a lot in 12 player races.. hopefully you now understand what he was trying to say when you replied "noone knows what you are talking about" because i understood, and now i have a new tactic when i go online, of course i'll have to perfect it first

Don't believe NJ5 about the powersliding, he is a novice himself.

It doesn't depend on where on the curve of a track you powerslide, it depends on the direction you are steering in during the powerslide. Inside = good, outside = bad.


Yeah, in fact I'm crap myself at Mario Kart, never got my score over 6500 yet :P

However, I definitely noticed my boosts started charging faster when I did them the way I do. Either they could get even faster, or I'm subconsciously doing it correctly without truly knowing the reason why they got faster.

Don't you hate it when you write a nice post and it gets largely ignored due to being last in the thread's page? Since that happened to your post, I'm copying it here:

RolStoppable said:

That's too bad then. By any chance, do you have a friend who owns a Wii and Mario Kart?

The thing where reviewers are wrong is that they say that the whole game has been simplified to a point where luck is more important than skill which simply isn't true. They were just looking for an easy way to blame the game, because they were incapable of beating 150cc Grand Prixs on first try. Can't win races, must be the game's fault, not the lack of skill of the person who plays it. Sure.

The powerslide mechanics themselves have been changed, the learning curve is the same as before or maybe even longer if you consider the problems that game journalists had with the game. Instead of quickly steering to the outside of the corner twice to charge the miniturbo in Double Dash!!, the charge works automatically in Mario Kart Wii, but if you steer inside in corners it charges faster, if you steer outside it charges slower. The difference in time to charge a single turbo is more than one second, comparing doing it right to doing it wrong.

Due to the vastly different controlling vehicles it takes a good portion of skill to approach every corner in the game in an angle which let's you steer to the inside of the corner the whole time. Not only do you save time by taking the corner sharp, you also charge your miniturbo faster. There are a lot of little things you can do in Mario Kart Wii to save time and if you are aware of them, a skilled player usually finishes half a lap ahead of an above average player, despite the less skilled player getting mushrooms and other good stuff.

 



My Mario Kart Wii friend code: 2707-1866-0957

RolStoppable said:
Dragon007 said:
RolStoppable said:

I know that you don't own MKWii, that's why I said that a mod could take your place and race against me. If you really think that the official and user reviews speak the truth that Mario Kart Wii is a simplified game, you have nothing to fear and can pick a mod of your choice.

Oh, I see, a trick question. Of course I don't deny that reviews and users claimed that the powerslide has been simplified, because they did claim this very thing. But they are wrong with this assumption and that's what I and others are trying to tell you. As previously said, the best way to find out who is actually right, is to play the game.


Bold: Why in God's name would I even consider such a thing. I don't know any of the mods, nor can I look over the contest.

How are they wrong? Please explain it to me. From the description everyone is giving they've clearly simplified the powerslide, the learning curve is now much shorter. Sure it still requires some skill, just not as much as before.

That's too bad then. By any chance, do you have a friend who owns a Wii and Mario Kart?

The thing where reviewers are wrong is that they say that the whole game has been simplified to a point where luck is more important than skill which simply isn't true. They were just looking for an easy way to blame the game, because they were incapable of beating 150cc Grand Prixs on first try. Can't win races, must be the game's fault, not the lack of skill of the person who plays it. Sure.

The powerslide mechanics themselves have been changed, the learning curve is the same as before or maybe even longer if you consider the problems that game journalists had with the game. Instead of quickly steering to the outside of the corner twice to charge the miniturbo in Double Dash!!, the charge works automatically in Mario Kart Wii, but if you steer inside in corners it charges faster, if you steer outside it charges slower. The difference in time to charge a single turbo is more than one second, comparing doing it right to doing it wrong.

Due to the vastly different controlling vehicles it takes a good portion of skill to approach every corner in the game in an angle which let's you steer to the inside of the corner the whole time. Not only do you save time by taking the corner sharp, you also charge your miniturbo faster. There are a lot of little things you can do in Mario Kart Wii to save time and if you are aware of them, a skilled player usually finishes half a lap ahead of an above average player, despite the less skilled player getting mushrooms and other good stuff.


Bold: I'll ask my niece, she has a Wii (i'm not kidding)

You've given a long explanation but I don't think it's required.

From what I understand (and have seen), all you have to do is initiate the powerslide, hold the button and steer in the right direction.

As opposed to Double Dash, where you can wiggle the analogue stick during the powerslide which increases your speed even more. I don't think you can argue that the system in Double Dash had more depth.

Maybe I went overboard when I said "it requires almost no skill", but it's certainly been dumbed down in some ways.