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Keiji said:
Snoopy said:
This game is probably getting a free pass from many publications because it was made by Hideo Kojima just like MGS5

MGS V was great.

Well it was, for like a day , then you spent more hours and it became less great...


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colafitte said:

Why i'm not surprised a PS game is being trashed and nitpicked by American media again??? Really, just look the american scores compared to the european ones. How many of these scores are just click-baity just because it's a PS4 exclusive?? Media reviews are broken if we don't use the same standars for each game. A niche indie game that nobody cares can score plus 90+, a conservative stucked in the past game like Devil May Cry 5, Gears 5 or Outer Worlds can score 85,86, 87...., a japanese anime derivative more of the same game as the last 1000 JRPG before it can score 85 or more (Ni no Kuni Remastered at 86 and DQ XIS at 91 being a very good examples).....and of course, if it's a Nintendo Switch game recently....it's difficult if it doesn't get 85 or more by default (Mario Maker 2, Link's Awakening, Astral Chain, Fire Emblem, Luigi's Mansion, and i'm pretty confident Pokemon in a few weeks).

But Naughty Dog makes Uncharted Lost Legacy and gets 84 and it's cosidered by most a top 3 Uncharted game, Horizon Zero Dawn, the game that received the 2nd most GOTY's in 2017 (considered one of the best gaming years ever), getting way more GOTY's than games like Persona 5 (93), Mario Odyssey (97), Nioh (88), Nier Automata (88), ....got a 89 on metacritic; Spider-Man, considered by most the most fun comic hero video game ever only got 87. Lol, even God of War "only" got 94 on metacritic despite being universally loved and wininng most GOTY's in 2018 beating RDR which got 97. The nitpicking in scores can go on, and on, on games like Gran Turismo Sport, Detroit Become Human, Days Gone, Medievil, .....It's always the same story recently.

And when you see some recent "best video games ever" lists like the one IGN did recently and some others, they're filled with Nintendo/japanese games and the best PS exclusives ever are not even close to be seen in top 10 or top 20. If you add this with the many biased articles circuling in recent months against the future of PS vs next Xbox or platforms like Stadia from american outlets it's obvious there is something going on behind the scenes....

Anyway 84-85, is less than anticipated but still a "good score". Media is going to have their beloved "clicks" with this one...That's the objective. Then most of this outlets that are telling you is just a 6/10 or 7/10 game will dedicate dozens of articles to the same very game.

I don't know, maybe the game deserves the score and maybe it doesn't. It's just that I don't trust gaming scores at all....I will have my own impression when i play it for myself.

These are the ramblings of a mad man. Dude take off the tinfoil hat and try and return to society.



Keiji said:
BraLoD said:
IGN Italy: 9.8
IGN Japan: 9.5
IGN Spain: 8.7
IGN: 6.8
Classic IGN xD

I wouldn't be surprise if once again European critics are smarter than US one.
I mean it works even for the movies : shitty movies like Captain Marvel, The Last Jedi got praised in US while Joker is not.

In Europe it is the opposite.

It's not a matter of being smarter or not i'm afraid....

What some american media did with Joker...is ...how do i say it...."revealing". 



Replicant said:
OTBWY said:
My score was just for the PC version :eyes:

If you're being honest, you planned to write this exact thing even before posting your 98/100 prediction, right?

So many toxic users have improved or left VGC, but I rarely see posts from you that isn't passive aggressive.
It's video games, man. It's supposed to be fun.

OT: Just one point away from my 85 prediction. Go on just a little bit more.

You know what your problem is Replicant? You take stuff too seriously. Besides, I thought you had been self reflective enough to have left... but you came back. Now you're just here following me around :/

OT: So there are reviews widely saying different things. The thing that does come back a lot is the game's multiplayer concept. I wonder how this will work with considerably more people playing it, thus making the game more populated with helpful items over the map. This is a little journey-ish and that's great. What's not so great though is that I read that you're constantly struggling to balance. Even a small rock will trip you..



I'm not surprised reviews for this are divisive, it's alway looked like a game that was going to split opinion.



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pikashoe said:
colafitte said:

Why i'm not surprised a PS game is being trashed and nitpicked by American media again??? Really, just look the american scores compared to the european ones. How many of these scores are just click-baity just because it's a PS4 exclusive?? Media reviews are broken if we don't use the same standars for each game. A niche indie game that nobody cares can score plus 90+, a conservative stucked in the past game like Devil May Cry 5, Gears 5 or Outer Worlds can score 85,86, 87...., a japanese anime derivative more of the same game as the last 1000 JRPG before it can score 85 or more (Ni no Kuni Remastered at 86 and DQ XIS at 91 being a very good examples).....and of course, if it's a Nintendo Switch game recently....it's difficult if it doesn't get 85 or more by default (Mario Maker 2, Link's Awakening, Astral Chain, Fire Emblem, Luigi's Mansion, and i'm pretty confident Pokemon in a few weeks).

But Naughty Dog makes Uncharted Lost Legacy and gets 84 and it's cosidered by most a top 3 Uncharted game, Horizon Zero Dawn, the game that received the 2nd most GOTY's in 2017 (considered one of the best gaming years ever), getting way more GOTY's than games like Persona 5 (93), Mario Odyssey (97), Nioh (88), Nier Automata (88), ....got a 89 on metacritic; Spider-Man, considered by most the most fun comic hero video game ever only got 87. Lol, even God of War "only" got 94 on metacritic despite being universally loved and wininng most GOTY's in 2018 beating RDR which got 97. The nitpicking in scores can go on, and on, on games like Gran Turismo Sport, Detroit Become Human, Days Gone, Medievil, .....It's always the same story recently.

And when you see some recent "best video games ever" lists like the one IGN did recently and some others, they're filled with Nintendo/japanese games and the best PS exclusives ever are not even close to be seen in top 10 or top 20. If you add this with the many biased articles circuling in recent months against the future of PS vs next Xbox or platforms like Stadia from american outlets it's obvious there is something going on behind the scenes....

Anyway 84-85, is less than anticipated but still a "good score". Media is going to have their beloved "clicks" with this one...That's the objective. Then most of this outlets that are telling you is just a 6/10 or 7/10 game will dedicate dozens of articles to the same very game.

I don't know, maybe the game deserves the score and maybe it doesn't. It's just that I don't trust gaming scores at all....I will have my own impression when i play it for myself.

These are the ramblings of a mad man. Dude take off the tinfoil hat and try and return to society.

I'm full mad man "abe simpson yelling at the clouds" mode now....I can't go back anymore..., too late. . I haven't recovered from those RDR 2 reviews last year..., i'm already damaged it seems...

I still believe in what i said though (the fact that gaming media is awarding games that are nothing new, just more of the same because of nostalgia, the fact that there is a serious discrepancy between american scores and european scores and that anything PS related is being nitpicked by american media in recent times) and if you think i'm wrong, your opinion and arguments about it are welcome to me. 



KLXVER said:
How can you be mad at the reviews when you haven't played the game yet? I can understand the 3.5 one since that seems very harsh, but it just seems like people have already made their mind up about this game a week before it releases. Also 85 is a phenomenal score.

Harsh isnt even the right word..... to express how silly that score is, its worse than "harsh".

There has to be some sort of standard for what a review score means, or else the entire score metric is baseless and worthless.
3.5 is the sort of score you give some broken peice of crapy indie game, full of bugs.

All you need to do is watch a trailer or some gameplay and you can tell its not a 3,5 score.
That reivewer should be banned for click bait score giveing.



colafitte said:
pikashoe said:

These are the ramblings of a mad man. Dude take off the tinfoil hat and try and return to society.

I'm full mad man "abe simpson yelling at the clouds" mode now....I can't go back anymore..., too late. . I haven't recovered from those RDR 2 reviews last year..., i'm already damaged it seems...

I still believe in what i said though (the fact that gaming media is awarding games that are nothing new, just more of the same because of nostalgia, the fact that there is a serious discrepancy between american scores and european scores and that anything PS related is being nitpicked by american media in recent times) and if you think i'm wrong, your opinion and arguments about it are welcome to me. 

Ever think that you might be a bit biased when it comes to Sony exclusives? I mean Spider-Man is new and original and Astral Chain is just more of the same.....same what exactly? 



"about 80% of your time spent with Deathstranding is walking over mountains delivering parcels"
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PSN ID: Stokesy 

Add me if you want but let me know youre from this website

JRPGfan said:
KLXVER said:
How can you be mad at the reviews when you haven't played the game yet? I can understand the 3.5 one since that seems very harsh, but it just seems like people have already made their mind up about this game a week before it releases. Also 85 is a phenomenal score.

Harsh isnt even the right word..... to express how silly that score is, its worse than "harsh".

There has to be some sort of standard for what a review score means, or else the entire score metric is baseless and worthless.
3.5 is the sort of score you give some broken peice of crapy indie game, full of bugs.

All you need to do is watch a trailer or some gameplay and you can tell its not a 3,5 score.
That reivewer should be banned for click bait score giveing.

Sure, but it is his opinion. No matter how much they may hate Kojima on a personal level. Banning him doesn't really help anyone. It would just give reviewers less incentive to give a game they don't like a low score.