Random_Matt said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:
Still, I don't expect Intel to come up with something better than that until their 10nm process has progressed far enough to be ready for the desktop market. Which I fear will only be the case in 2021 at best.
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It will be 2021, laptop and tablets are all 2020.
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At best, which I forgot to write originally. And at this rate, it's more like in the year 2525 (if Intel's still alive). How many pluses will they add to the 14nm process in the meanwhile?
Cerebralbore101 said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:
Yeah, the andavantage the 9900K has over the 3700X in games is so small it doesn't really justify the price difference anymore. Add to this the fact that Ryzen crushes the 9900K in productivity reviews, and that announced 15% pricedrop is clearly too little, too late to keep the CPUs afloat until the gen comes out.
Speaking of the next gen, that seems to come in form of 14nm+++ in yet another refresh of Skylake - just with up to 10 cores and 5.2 Ghz this time around.
Cue Facepalm X2 combo
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Another issue I realized last night. Most people game with a few other non-game programs still running in the background. Things like Discord and the like. Ryzen is better with handing non-gaming tasks, so for people that don't close every last program out prior to gaming, I bet that 10 FPS advantage would just disappear. Also keep in mind that these 10 extra frames are based on running a 2080 Ti or 2080. I doubt the FPS difference would be as big for somebody running something more modest like a 2060 or 5700.
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That's another issue, and one that had been highlighted by both gamers on forums and AMD themselves, though their video comparison between the 3900X and a 9900K was very misleading (3900X totally fluid, 9900K below 10FPS) since no one ever would even try to do the settings AMD used unless they want to benchmark a worst case scenario - but certainly never for transcoding.
I don't think however that Discord, Teamspeak, and the like have much of an effect on the performance. Neither should the browser unless you're short on memory. That leaves us with the streaming, and I guess a 2-5% hit would be pretty close to a real life scenario unlike what AMD showed during the reveal of the 3900X. So, not really a big impact.
Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 10 July 2019