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0D0 said:
curl-6 said:

PS5 will still get plenty of big games in Japan; some they'll money-hat, others will be shared with Switch, and yet others will be made for PS5 instead of Switch by devs who'll prioritize eye candy over being financially sensible.

Not strictly true, the Wii was a success.

Splatoon 2 wasn't a Wii U game, nor was Odyssey. As for using "almost every big franchise in the first 12 months" where was Pokemon, Animal Crossing, 2D Mario, Smash Bros, Donkey Kong, Mario Party, etc?

Wii was an exception. NES and SNES barely had competition.

My mistake was saying 12 months. Wii U had Smash, MK, Mario 2D, Mario 3D, DKC, Zelda. This is "almost every big franchise".

Exceptions still exist and count.

Regarding the second bit, you're being a bit confusing here, what exactly is your point? You were talking about the Switch selling cos of Wii U games and having all Nintendo's big franchises in its first year, now you seemed to have sidestepped into talking about Wii U's lifetime library? Either I missed something or your posts aren't making any sense.

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Mandalore76 said:
0D0 said:

Wii was an exception. NES and SNES barely had competition.

My mistake was saying 12 months. Wii U had Smash, MK, Mario 2D, Mario 3D, DKC, Zelda. This is "almost every big franchise".

Define "barely":

Sega Genesis

Lifespan
1988–1997 (Sega)

Units sold
Sega: 30.75 million
Tec Toy: 3 million
Majesco: 1.5 million (projected)

Sega is a distant 3rd In Japan during the 16 bit era.

The PC engine is the main competitor here 

SMD/PCE/SFC

3.5/8/17 milion units



curl-6 said:
0D0 said:

Wii was an exception. NES and SNES barely had competition.

My mistake was saying 12 months. Wii U had Smash, MK, Mario 2D, Mario 3D, DKC, Zelda. This is "almost every big franchise".

Exceptions still exist and count.

Regarding the second bit, you're being a bit confusing here, what exactly is your point? You were talking about the Switch selling cos of Wii U games and having all Nintendo's big franchises in its first year, now you seemed to have sidestepped into talking about Wii U's lifetime library? Either I missed something or your posts aren't making any sense.

You missed when I said that I committed a mistake in my statement regarding 12 months. Incorrect exaggeration.

0D0 said:

"Wii was an exception. NES and SNES barely had competition.

My mistake was saying 12 months. Wii U had Smash, MK, Mario 2D, Mario 3D, DKC, Zelda. This is "almost every big franchise"."

Regarding exceptions. I don't make general rule statements considering exceptions. If you do, you and me can't have a proper discussion. Every time I discuss Nintendo, I always remove Wii or I add it as a bubble and exception, not as a rule to Nintendo's home console business performance. Nintendo has never had a home console with that performance after Sony entered the market. Actually, Nintendo home console business has been shrinking since Nintendo's first home console. That's the Nintendo home console sales rule (except Wii). If I were a Nintendo sales analyst, I'd always put Wii on parenthesis.

You may disagree with that, but there's no way round it with me. The same with NSW that I'll never consider part of the home console business. An army of people can tell me I'm wrong based on a thousand reasons, which is fair but I don't care.

The premisses that I don't discuss and I don't negotiate:

- Nintendo home console business has been decreasing since ever (except Wii) from 60m NES to 13m Wii U.

- Nintendo left the home console business after Wii U.

- God exists.

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When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

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0D0 said:
curl-6 said:

Exceptions still exist and count.

Regarding the second bit, you're being a bit confusing here, what exactly is your point? You were talking about the Switch selling cos of Wii U games and having all Nintendo's big franchises in its first year, now you seemed to have sidestepped into talking about Wii U's lifetime library? Either I missed something or your posts aren't making any sense.

You missed when I said that I committed a mistake in my statement regarding 12 months. Incorrect exaggeration.

0D0 said:

"Wii was an exception. NES and SNES barely had competition.

My mistake was saying 12 months. Wii U had Smash, MK, Mario 2D, Mario 3D, DKC, Zelda. This is "almost every big franchise"."

Regarding exceptions. I don't make general rule statements considering exceptions. If you do, you and me can't have a proper discussion. Every time I discuss Nintendo, I always remove Wii or I add it as a bubble and exception, not as a rule to Nintendo's home console business performance. Nintendo has never had a home console with that performance after Sony entered the market. Actually, Nintendo home console business has been shrinking since Nintendo's first home console. That's the Nintendo home console sales rule (except Wii). If I were a Nintendo sales analyst, I'd always put Wii on parenthesis.

You may disagree with that, but there's no way round it with me. The same with NSW that I'll never consider part of the home console business. An army of people can tell me I'm wrong based on a thousand reasons, which is fair but I don't care.

The premisses that I don't discuss and I don't negotiate:

- Nintendo home console business has been decreasing since ever (except Wii) from 60m NES to 13m Wii U.

- Nintendo left the home console business after Wii U.

- God exists.

Except Nintendo haven't left the home console market.



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It was expected. However, I hope CensorStation 5 does worse in Japan.

Fuck Sony.

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Wyrdness said:
0D0 said:

You missed when I said that I committed a mistake in my statement regarding 12 months. Incorrect exaggeration.

0D0 said:

"Wii was an exception. NES and SNES barely had competition.

My mistake was saying 12 months. Wii U had Smash, MK, Mario 2D, Mario 3D, DKC, Zelda. This is "almost every big franchise"."

Regarding exceptions. I don't make general rule statements considering exceptions. If you do, you and me can't have a proper discussion. Every time I discuss Nintendo, I always remove Wii or I add it as a bubble and exception, not as a rule to Nintendo's home console business performance. Nintendo has never had a home console with that performance after Sony entered the market. Actually, Nintendo home console business has been shrinking since Nintendo's first home console. That's the Nintendo home console sales rule (except Wii). If I were a Nintendo sales analyst, I'd always put Wii on parenthesis.

You may disagree with that, but there's no way round it with me. The same with NSW that I'll never consider part of the home console business. An army of people can tell me I'm wrong based on a thousand reasons, which is fair but I don't care.

The premisses that I don't discuss and I don't negotiate:

- Nintendo home console business has been decreasing since ever (except Wii) from 60m NES to 13m Wii U.

- Nintendo left the home console business after Wii U.

- God exists.

Except Nintendo haven't left the home console market.

Except Nintendo has left the home console market.

It's so fun, your turn. :)



My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

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0D0 said:

Except Nintendo has left the home console market.

It's so fun, your turn. :)

Leaving a market means not competing in it unfortunately for your argument Switch is competing in it which makes you argument false by default side stepping this fact doesn't do anything for your argument.



0D0 said:
curl-6 said:

Exceptions still exist and count.

Regarding the second bit, you're being a bit confusing here, what exactly is your point? You were talking about the Switch selling cos of Wii U games and having all Nintendo's big franchises in its first year, now you seemed to have sidestepped into talking about Wii U's lifetime library? Either I missed something or your posts aren't making any sense.

You missed when I said that I committed a mistake in my statement regarding 12 months. Incorrect exaggeration.

0D0 said:

"Wii was an exception. NES and SNES barely had competition.

My mistake was saying 12 months. Wii U had Smash, MK, Mario 2D, Mario 3D, DKC, Zelda. This is "almost every big franchise"."

Regarding exceptions. I don't make general rule statements considering exceptions. If you do, you and me can't have a proper discussion. Every time I discuss Nintendo, I always remove Wii or I add it as a bubble and exception, not as a rule to Nintendo's home console business performance. Nintendo has never had a home console with that performance after Sony entered the market. Actually, Nintendo home console business has been shrinking since Nintendo's first home console. That's the Nintendo home console sales rule (except Wii). If I were a Nintendo sales analyst, I'd always put Wii on parenthesis.

You may disagree with that, but there's no way round it with me. The same with NSW that I'll never consider part of the home console business. An army of people can tell me I'm wrong based on a thousand reasons, which is fair but I don't care.

The premisses that I don't discuss and I don't negotiate:

- Nintendo home console business has been decreasing since ever (except Wii) from 60m NES to 13m Wii U.

- Nintendo left the home console business after Wii U.

- God exists.

All impossible to prove statements! Neat!



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TruckOSaurus said:

All impossible to prove statements! Neat!

At least it's honest. It doesn't happen often that someone outright says that it's not possible to have a reasonable discussion with them.



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