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FF7Remake + Sony Exclusivity + Next Gen PS5 + Episodic Nature + Game Progress

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AbbathTheGrim said:

Dude, you are extremely optimistic. I am fearing that they will instead chop off and summarize stuff out of the original game.

FF games usually have some good end game content, large optional bosses, collectibles, side story stuff but all left for 'end game' given the name. Considering the 'end game' won't happen until 2036 they'll have to add a lot to part 1. They'll add loads of substance to Midgar we don't really need...

... while half arsing the Honey Bee Inn scenes. :P



Hmm, pie.

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AbbathTheGrim said:

This is something that I have been thinking about concerning the episodic approach this game will have and the fact that the next PlayStation is in the next corner.

How do you expect, think that Square will approach the release of these episodes or think would be ok for Square to address game progress (leveling up, inventory and collection of items) when these episodes are likely to jump to PS5?

A) Do you think all the episodes release both in PS4 and PS5?

B) Could this "episodes" work more as stand alone games that, once you finish them, all gained levels and inventory are gone and you start in episode 2 (for example) on level 1 all over again? How do you like that idea?

C) Maybe there are other examples out there of episodic games you think would be the best way to approach and continue progress between episodes? What would be the best approach?

D) Could there be a way to "load" your saved game from episode 1 to episode 2?

E) What is the best way for Square to address game progress between episodes? Would you care if progress is lost between episodes?

F) Will I lose all my 1/35 Soldiers after I finish an episode?

Discuss.

A) Yes, if they release the first episode on the PS4 then it's just right they release the entire game.

B) I think you will load your saved data from the previous episode to keep all of your progress and each episode will limit the "openess" of the game. I recall in the original after you leave Midgar the first time you can't go back, so for example, that would be the end of episode 1 and on episode 2 you can't go back.

C) Honestly the best approach would be to make a normal game. I don't understand the reasoning behind making it episodic.

D) Yes, I think that's the point.

E) You should be able to load your progress from the previous episode and continue from there. If the game allows you to play an episode without playing the previous one, then maybe there's gonna be an automatic progress established for each episode. I don't know about this one. And yes, I would be pissed if I lost progress.

F) I don't get that one, I haven't finished the original, but I'm excited too



Guys .. Chesus trist..The episodic thing is just replicating disk switch. Why is this such a big deal? This isnt a new thing. Both the .Hack series and Golden Sun and MMO's have done this.



AbbathTheGrim said:
Manlytears said:

Imho, they will make each episode to be like 1 disc of the OG FFVII and add some extras to give some meet to the episodes, expanded lore and extra quests for sure.

Dude, you are extremely optimistic. I am fearing that they will instead chop off and summarize stuff out of the original game.

Based on what!? What is your justification for this? Its literally the oposite. 



Xxain said:
Guys .. Chesus trist..The episodic thing is just replicating disk switch. Why is this such a big deal? This isnt a new thing. Both the .Hack series and Golden Sun and MMO's have done this.

Seriously? People defend this shit? When I buy a product, I get a full product, shocking I know. I'm going to see if I can get money off a car with only two wheels, I can wait a while until I can have the full thing.

If you are happy with an idea which was relevant to a time where tech was not good enough for it to be done on one disk then all cool for you, but at least back then they gave you multiple disks which made up a full product. 

I am not going to be a cash cow for these developers/publishers, glad you are happy to be.



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AbbathTheGrim said:

B) Could this "episodes" work more as stand alone games that, once you finish them, all gained levels and inventory are gone and you start in episode 2 (for example) on level 1 all over again? How do you like that idea?

Discuss.

This is what has me most concerned. I really hope that once all episodes are released, they can be played in succession and feel like a single adventure. Character development is important for me, so if that all goes to waste I will lose the urge to continue investing in my characters.

Why did they have to go this route?!



AbbathTheGrim said:
Manlytears said:

Imho, they will make each episode to be like 1 disc of the OG FFVII and add some extras to give some meet to the episodes, expanded lore and extra quests for sure.

Dude, you are extremely optimistic. I am fearing that they will instead chop off and summarize stuff out of the original game.

Backlash would be huge if they cut parts of the og game and, on top of that, divided the thing in 3 parts!

Og FF7 is colossal in size, but if you divide it by 3... not very impressive, still good size, but not a "big rpg size"! 

They don't need to create many things, just some extras, 3-4 h of extra gameplay and lore for fans, people will love it and fell like the "episode bullshit" got some positive sides.

Be more positive, i mean, square sucks at "time and development cicles", but remember this is mudafukar FF7 and the start of the "classic remakes" from legendary rpgs, the guys need to be extra dumb to cut corners on a project whit such potetial.

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Random_Matt said:
Xxain said:
Guys .. Chesus trist..The episodic thing is just replicating disk switch. Why is this such a big deal? This isnt a new thing. Both the .Hack series and Golden Sun and MMO's have done this.

Seriously? People defend this shit? When I buy a product, I get a full product, shocking I know. I'm going to see if I can get money off a car with only two wheels, I can wait a while until I can have the full thing.

If you are happy with an idea which was relevant to a time where tech was not good enough for it to be done on one disk then all cool for you, but at least back then they gave you multiple disks which made up a full product. 

I am not going to be a cash cow for these developers/publishers, glad you are happy to be.

Not in defense of the concept; but why many people are having a difficult time with how its gonna work.



Xxain said:
Guys .. Chesus trist..The episodic thing is just replicating disk switch. Why is this such a big deal? This isnt a new thing. Both the .Hack series and Golden Sun and MMO's have done this.

When I bought Final Fantasy VII over 20 years ago, all 3 discs came in the same jewel case day one.  If all episodes aren't available on initial release day, then no, it's not remotely the same thing.  When I finished the original disc one, a message didn't appear on the screen saying "wait for Squaresoft to release disc 2".



I'm sure that they are all going to be released on both PS4 and PS5. Now that KH3 is released, my guess is that all of that staff, and probably some additional staff, are fully working on this remake. Episode 1 took forever to come out, partially because they started over not too long ago, but EP 2 and 3 shouldn't take near as long. SE knows this can be a cash cow.

Personally, I think it would be in their best interest to release these for $40/$50 a piece, instead of $60, since it is one game split into 3 pieces. And I imagine there will be an exclusive compilation of all 3 on the PS5 when the 3rd one comes out. I also think it's an almost 100% chance they will have cross saves for the different episodes and consoles.