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Guys .. Chesus trist..The episodic thing is just replicating disk switch. Why is this such a big deal? This isnt a new thing. Both the .Hack series and Golden Sun and MMO's have done this.



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AbbathTheGrim said:
Manlytears said:

Imho, they will make each episode to be like 1 disc of the OG FFVII and add some extras to give some meet to the episodes, expanded lore and extra quests for sure.

Dude, you are extremely optimistic. I am fearing that they will instead chop off and summarize stuff out of the original game.

Based on what!? What is your justification for this? Its literally the oposite. 



Xxain said:
Guys .. Chesus trist..The episodic thing is just replicating disk switch. Why is this such a big deal? This isnt a new thing. Both the .Hack series and Golden Sun and MMO's have done this.

Seriously? People defend this shit? When I buy a product, I get a full product, shocking I know. I'm going to see if I can get money off a car with only two wheels, I can wait a while until I can have the full thing.

If you are happy with an idea which was relevant to a time where tech was not good enough for it to be done on one disk then all cool for you, but at least back then they gave you multiple disks which made up a full product. 

I am not going to be a cash cow for these developers/publishers, glad you are happy to be.



AbbathTheGrim said:

B) Could this "episodes" work more as stand alone games that, once you finish them, all gained levels and inventory are gone and you start in episode 2 (for example) on level 1 all over again? How do you like that idea?

Discuss.

This is what has me most concerned. I really hope that once all episodes are released, they can be played in succession and feel like a single adventure. Character development is important for me, so if that all goes to waste I will lose the urge to continue investing in my characters.

Why did they have to go this route?!



AbbathTheGrim said:
Manlytears said:

Imho, they will make each episode to be like 1 disc of the OG FFVII and add some extras to give some meet to the episodes, expanded lore and extra quests for sure.

Dude, you are extremely optimistic. I am fearing that they will instead chop off and summarize stuff out of the original game.

Backlash would be huge if they cut parts of the og game and, on top of that, divided the thing in 3 parts!

Og FF7 is colossal in size, but if you divide it by 3... not very impressive, still good size, but not a "big rpg size"! 

They don't need to create many things, just some extras, 3-4 h of extra gameplay and lore for fans, people will love it and fell like the "episode bullshit" got some positive sides.

Be more positive, i mean, square sucks at "time and development cicles", but remember this is mudafukar FF7 and the start of the "classic remakes" from legendary rpgs, the guys need to be extra dumb to cut corners on a project whit such potetial.

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Random_Matt said:
Xxain said:
Guys .. Chesus trist..The episodic thing is just replicating disk switch. Why is this such a big deal? This isnt a new thing. Both the .Hack series and Golden Sun and MMO's have done this.

Seriously? People defend this shit? When I buy a product, I get a full product, shocking I know. I'm going to see if I can get money off a car with only two wheels, I can wait a while until I can have the full thing.

If you are happy with an idea which was relevant to a time where tech was not good enough for it to be done on one disk then all cool for you, but at least back then they gave you multiple disks which made up a full product. 

I am not going to be a cash cow for these developers/publishers, glad you are happy to be.

Not in defense of the concept; but why many people are having a difficult time with how its gonna work.



Xxain said:
Guys .. Chesus trist..The episodic thing is just replicating disk switch. Why is this such a big deal? This isnt a new thing. Both the .Hack series and Golden Sun and MMO's have done this.

When I bought Final Fantasy VII over 20 years ago, all 3 discs came in the same jewel case day one.  If all episodes aren't available on initial release day, then no, it's not remotely the same thing.  When I finished the original disc one, a message didn't appear on the screen saying "wait for Squaresoft to release disc 2".



I'm sure that they are all going to be released on both PS4 and PS5. Now that KH3 is released, my guess is that all of that staff, and probably some additional staff, are fully working on this remake. Episode 1 took forever to come out, partially because they started over not too long ago, but EP 2 and 3 shouldn't take near as long. SE knows this can be a cash cow.

Personally, I think it would be in their best interest to release these for $40/$50 a piece, instead of $60, since it is one game split into 3 pieces. And I imagine there will be an exclusive compilation of all 3 on the PS5 when the 3rd one comes out. I also think it's an almost 100% chance they will have cross saves for the different episodes and consoles.



Mandalore76 said:
Xxain said:
Guys .. Chesus trist..The episodic thing is just replicating disk switch. Why is this such a big deal? This isnt a new thing. Both the .Hack series and Golden Sun and MMO's have done this.

When I bought Final Fantasy VII over 20 years ago, all 3 discs came in the same jewel case day one.  If all episodes aren't available on initial release day, then no, it's not remotely the same thing.  When I finished the original disc one, a message didn't appear on the screen saying "wait for Squaresoft to release disc 2".

I should of worded this better - IM NO TALKING ABOUT THE DELIVERY OF THE GAME, BUT DATA TRANSFER BETWEEN EPISODIC GAMES.   



Xxain said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

Dude, you are extremely optimistic. I am fearing that they will instead chop off and summarize stuff out of the original game.

Based on what!? What is your justification for this? Its literally the oposite. 

You are reacting to my post like I am stating something as a fact which I am not. I fear that content will be removed or streamlined, I never said there is no doubt that that will be the case.

I hope I am wrong.

Manlytears said:

Backlash would be huge if they cut parts of the og game and, on top of that, divided the thing in 3 parts!

Og FF7 is colossal in size, but if you divide it by 3... not very impressive, still good size, but not a "big rpg size"! 

They don't need to create many things, just some extras, 3-4 h of extra gameplay and lore for fans, people will love it and fell like the "episode bullshit" got some positive sides.

Be more positive, i mean, square sucks at "time and development cicles", but remember this is mudafukar FF7 and the start of the "classic remakes" from legendary rpgs, the guys need to be extra dumb to cut corners on a project whit such potetial.

Square ended up canceling most DLC from FFXV so I wouldn't be surprised they are willing to take unpopular decisions... specially regarding content.

Actually, my current feelings towards content in FFVII will be completely unmade once I see more footage and/or actually play the game so every expectations we have, either positive or negative, will change or not depending on the actual content of the remake. What we feel right now really doesn't make a difference. lol

The Fury said:

FF games usually have some good end game content, large optional bosses, collectibles, side story stuff but all left for 'end game' given the name. Considering the 'end game' won't happen until 2036 they'll have to add a lot to part 1. They'll add loads of substance to Midgar we don't really need...

... while half arsing the Honey Bee Inn scenes. :P

I have played and finished FFVII over 7 times while leveling up my party to level 100 so I will be a very good judge of what they remove, if they remove stuff.

I completely get what you mean. As a matter of fact, if you see the trailer you see that new scene with Sephiroth which, unless it was just made for the trailer, seem to signal that maybe we will have an encounter and who knows maybe a little fight with him in Midgar. Maybe they will add more stuff but I hope they don't cut stuff off...

...specially the Honey Bee Inn cross-dressing stuff. :D



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