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Will Avengers:Endgame beat Avatar?

Yes 68 80.00%
 
No 17 20.00%
 
Total:85

I still think Endgame will pass Avatar. Either it will do it because of a boost from Spider-Man: Far From Home or it will do it from a re-release. Either way Disney will want to put "top grossing movie of all time" on every Endgame Blu-Ray box.



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The_Liquid_Laser said:
I still think Endgame will pass Avatar. Either it will do it because of a boost from Spider-Man: Far From Home or it will do it from a re-release. Either way Disney will want to put "top grossing movie of all time" on every Endgame Blu-Ray box.

Or more likely Disney will want to advertise Avatar 2 as "the sequel to the biggest movie of all time".



Jumpin said:
haxxiy said:

Literally all of these are adaptations of written works, with many versions across TV, theaters etc. often before becoming movies.

And all of them are ancient (different time, different culture, very different industry) and not one of them is an action blockbuster; not particularly relevant comparisons since their impacts would be completely different than a film like Avatar. Films are more disposable entertainment these days; you look back at not just Psycho, but all of Hitchcock's films, and they're all classics, many took a while to gain cultural traction (Vertigo not until its remaster almost 3 decades later); but that's not particularly true about the last 15 years or so - oversaturation? The Internet? Who knows the reason. But usually what makes a film culturally relevant among new franchises is when the sequels or TV series comes out.

How about Inception. Released a year after Avatar, and based on the amount of times it's been ripped off, the amount of times it's referenced in jokes (mostly playing on the word Inception), the amount of times I've heard it's music or sound-effects used in youtube videos, memes etc., I'm willing to say it's had more of a cultural impact than Avatar. That's just one off the top of my head.



There’s no denying it avatar had no cultural impact and it wasn’t that great either,I don’t know how it made so much money, maybe it was the James Cameron name, or maybe because 3D glasses were a thing back then, anyway like mentioned before there many newer and older movies that had much more cultural impact.
But to go back with the topic I think avengers won’t beAt avatar it’s too late now, and if they rerelease it that would be kind of cheating, but in the same way they could rerelease avatar too.



the-pi-guy said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
I still think Endgame will pass Avatar. Either it will do it because of a boost from Spider-Man: Far From Home or it will do it from a re-release. Either way Disney will want to put "top grossing movie of all time" on every Endgame Blu-Ray box.

Or more likely Disney will want to advertise Avatar 2 as "the sequel to the biggest movie of all time".

You are assuming they won't do both. 



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Ka-pi96 said:
Jumpin said:
The reason why Avatar hasn’t had the same cultural impact is because it’s from 10 years ago and has no follow up material. Marvel movies come out like every couple of months and has lots of additional material. You’re talking 1 film compared to a franchise universe with an entire corporate machine constantly backing it.

Not really. There've been plenty of movies that are older, have had no follow up material and have had a much larger impact than Avatar did.

Plenty of films that have had sequels that still would have had a much larger impact than Avatar even without the sequels too.

Exactly. RoboCop, Predator, Alien, and Terminator are good examples. In the Alien and Terminator's case, they definitely blew up larger with the sequel, but they were already popular before it released and already made an impact on culture. Especially Arnold and his "I'll be back." Most kids couldn't even watch those films, yet they knew the characters and lines from the film, as well as bought the toys and dressed up as them for Halloween.

It's got to be almost a decade since I've seen someone have an Avatar toy or dress up as a Navi for Halloween. Haven't heard a single person reference a line from it or even know the name of one of the characters, even if they claimed to like it. No impact whatsoever. The only people who reference that movie without being provoked to either talk about how forgettable it was or how much it made. Yet, somehow, Cameron thinks Avatar sequels are his future. And this is really why it's taken him this long. He has no idea where to go with the story or is searching for some other gimmick to turn a mediocre film into a huge success.



it won't mean anything when it does (as it seems)

this is the real list, and it won't even crack the top3

Highest-grossing films as of 2019 adjusted for inflation

1 Gone with the Wind $3,728,000,000 1939
2 Avatar $3,273,000,000 2009
3 Titanic $3,099,000,000 1997
4 Star Wars $3,061,000,000 1977
5 Avengers: Endgame film currently playing $2,733,401,768 2019
6 The Sound of Music $2,564,000,000 1965
7 E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial $2,503,000,000 1982
8 The Ten Commandments $2,370,000,000 1956
9 Doctor Zhivago $2,246,000,000 1965
10 Star Wars: The Force Awakens $2,215,000,000 2015



flashfire926 said:
Yes, without a doubt. It will probably get to 3 billion as well.

The real even battle is against TFA for domestic gross, tho.

Not a chance...it's having a very hard and slow time just passing Avatar right now. It just made what, $5.8 million domestically over last weekend down 39% from $8 million the previous. I expect this weekend to make half of $5.8 but if it now holds a steady $3-4 million, then yeah it will at least pass Avatar but no way in hell is it making like another $300 million at this rate.

I think worldwide over the week it went from $2715 to $2733....roughly $20 million increase. It significantly drops each weekend.

I didn't think it was going to top Avatar but I think now it could as long as it holds $3-4 million and around $10 million worldwide. As soon as it falls below $1 million a week it's over.



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dark_gh0st_b0y said:

it won't mean anything when it does (as it seems)

this is the real list, and it won't even crack the top3

Highest-grossing films as of 2019 adjusted for inflation

1 Gone with the Wind $3,728,000,000 1939
2 Avatar $3,273,000,000 2009
3 Titanic $3,099,000,000 1997
4 Star Wars $3,061,000,000 1977
5 Avengers: Endgame film currently playing $2,733,401,768 2019
6 The Sound of Music $2,564,000,000 1965
7 E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial $2,503,000,000 1982
8 The Ten Commandments $2,370,000,000 1956
9 Doctor Zhivago $2,246,000,000 1965
10 Star Wars: The Force Awakens $2,215,000,000 2015

Yep, exactly....

Also, keep in mind with Gone with the Wind; that film was released in theaters like 7 times.



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Shaunodon said:
Jumpin said:

And all of them are ancient (different time, different culture, very different industry) and not one of them is an action blockbuster; not particularly relevant comparisons since their impacts would be completely different than a film like Avatar. Films are more disposable entertainment these days; you look back at not just Psycho, but all of Hitchcock's films, and they're all classics, many took a while to gain cultural traction (Vertigo not until its remaster almost 3 decades later); but that's not particularly true about the last 15 years or so - oversaturation? The Internet? Who knows the reason. But usually what makes a film culturally relevant among new franchises is when the sequels or TV series comes out.

How about Inception. Released a year after Avatar, and based on the amount of times it's been ripped off, the amount of times it's referenced in jokes (mostly playing on the word Inception), the amount of times I've heard it's music or sound-effects used in youtube videos, memes etc., I'm willing to say it's had more of a cultural impact than Avatar. That's just one off the top of my head.

Inception, at least as far as Sci-fi related films did strike more of a chord with certain types of people who were impressed by the plot-mechanic heavy and twisty story. But in terms of pop culture references, I don't really think it was any more referenced than Avatar was (and perhaps fewer), if it did it wasn't significantly so. One of the similar breakthroughs it had was that it was criticized for being unoriginal by South Park (Avatar was said to be based on Dances with Wolves + Smurfs; inception was Nightmare on Elmstreet), and Avatar had a Simpsons THOH episode with Bart being an Avatar of the Blue Rigelians (I assume Inception did too, but I don't recall). I have not seen much or any references to Inception since around the time it came out.

Also, I am not aware of any film that has ripped off Inception.

But you do remind me of something (and it's a counterpoint against what I have written) with another Nolan film: The Interstellar black hole probably had the biggest cultural impact of any element of an independent sci-fi in recent times. I still see it frequently. But, unfortunately as a film, Interstellar has not been well regarded... Or at least not yet.



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