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mZuzek said:

I mean, yeah, it's a little late right now. Sure. But it's an undeniable thing that VGC has become decreasingly active in recent years, with a dearth of new members being one of the key reasons for it, and with each passing day it seems the place only grows more and more stale. The team (aka TalonMan) behind the website have been hard at work improving the experience of browsing here, with loads of new features and enhancements being made on a somewhat regular basis, but no matter what, it's not attracting new people or bringing back old users, and it doesn't seem to be making current users more active, either.

I think we can spend a long time theorizing just why this has happened, but honestly, at some point we're gonna have to figure it out if we wanna keep this community alive. I can only speak for myself when I say I love this place, but I know many share that sentiment and it's sad to see it fast becoming a mere shadow of its former self.

We need to fix it. How? Well, I don't know. Maybe you don't know, either. But, this is what this thread is for: discussing this subject, trying to come up with solutions, and hopefully start turning things for the better. You know, because multiple people thinking is more thinking than one person thinking. Or something.

Let's bring back the good days of VGC.

You talk about the technical changes TalonMan brings, this is cool for existing users but seldomly the reason for new users to join. The main draw in point for VGC always were the numbers. Now that is severely crippled by letting the software numbers out and only show hardware numbers. So the site needs another strong point. It can just simply be a gaming forum, but there are others out there, to stand out is a thing of the community. But there are some additional things here: Game database and Prediction League. Both are somewhat unique. Other than that it boils down to attractive threads. I personally think the 50 greatest game thread at years end is very attractive.



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As this is a sales site, sales discussions are the most natural thing. But unfortunately receiving actual numbers is very difficult. As for me, I never participated all too much in sales discussions myself but I still like to read them nontheless, and a lot of people enjoy talking about sales figures. I believe this is the main appeal of this site.

I noticed that in recent times the community got rid of a whole lot of problematic users who had been very loud / aggressive / controverse. I think I don't need to call names. By banning these people the site got much more peaceful, yes, but at the same time it got ... kind of boring. These people and the discussions they fuel may be hard to digest for some but they had been quite entertaining, honestly. I know we are all much smarter and more sophisticated to fall back to the good ol' fanboy wars but these good ol' fanboy wars are highly enjoyable to witness. If I had to pin it down to why this site became lame I would argue that getting rid of 'problematic' users might have a significant influence. I would argue that some level of controversy is beneficial because it fuels activity, no matter if one side might be obviously wrong or right or if the discussion per se is nonsensical to begin with. Instead, I notice some sort of oversensitivity among the mod team as well as among the user base. Saying something slightly offensive might result in a warning or a ban quite fast, and I understand the reasons for this reaction very well because the mod team will have a desire to protect every user and therefore wouldn't want anybody to feel offended.

Now if I remember correctly it even was the user base itself who desired the mods to become stricter and hand out moderations more often, although I might be very wrong on this. Please correct me f I'm wrong. So if the mods are too strict they harm free speech and activity, but if they are too soft some users might don't like the aggressive, hostile environment. Either way, the mods are always wrong no matter what they do. I understand that their task is pretty unforgiving and so I wish them lots of strength and patience for continuing their job.

It's really a tough call but in the end I would advocate for more freedom of speech, even though it might be controverse or offensive in some cases.



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Darwinianevolution said:
To be fair, activity here is very dependant on the amount of news the gaming industry offers, and right now, everything is very still waiting for the next generation of consoles.

This. VGC ebbs and flows with console generations. People were saying the same things back in 2012-13. With the next generation of consoles coming, I would wait until those get here to be worried. 



alternine said:
There's a plethora of reasons why the site is getting stale and old but I would probably be banned for telling it like it is. I guess that's part of it though. This site is too heavy on the enforcing. I know if I was new and saw what you can and can't say on VGC I wouldn't wanna sign up either. I'd imagine a lot of current users feel the same way which explains the dip. Just my opinion of course.

Here's at least one user who is very appreciative of the current moderation policy here. The discussions here are generally quite civil, unlike on some other forums where good behaviour is not enforced. That's exactly one of the things I like here compared to other places. I've also used some forums where moderation went way too far, but it doesn't feel like it at all here. To each their own though; for me, this is just fine and great.



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Good luck.



    

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I got banned, questioned these idiot mods, and got permabanned....  this will happen again now.  The mods killed the site, and should have stayed in their lane.



Well I joined in 2007 their were barely any forums or other sources and we barely had any sales (except monthly). Youtube wasn't that big yet and if we wanted gametrailers we probably still went to gametrailers.com Now we have stuff like twitter/youtube/discord for the news and discussions.






Darwinianevolution said:
To be fair, activity here is very dependant on the amount of news the gaming industry offers, and right now, everything is very still waiting for the next generation of consoles.

Yep.

vgsjw said:
alternine said:
There's a plethora of reasons why the site is getting stale and old but I would probably be banned for telling it like it is. I guess that's part of it though. This site is too heavy on the enforcing. I know if I was new and saw what you can and can't say on VGC I wouldn't wanna sign up either. I'd imagine a lot of current users feel the same way which explains the dip. Just my opinion of course.

this...too much banning for little things you said especially for new users. made a new account after lurking for years cause i got banned and not bother to make another account anymore cause of a very sensitive banning team...hey i might get banned again. then cycle will continue

Nah, won't be a cycle. ;P

dgboweniii said:

I got banned, questioned these idiot mods, and got permabanned....  this will happen again now.  The mods killed the site, and should have stayed in their lane.

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This site literally throws spam at you and shitty ads. Heck my notifications keep lighting up for stupid reasons which the mods themselfs keep putting up, then defend it. Heck a mod called me a cunt, and another mod saw the post and did nothing in the thread I complained about the prediction league spam. Now it's badges spam. User experience means nothing on this site, the site was notoriously slow and lagy for years, it also kept crashing and basically nothing was done about it.

And the sites main attraction, the numbers, were worthless all gen long. So people left more than they came.