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What do you think?

They deserved it 27 61.36%
 
It's about time 3 6.82%
 
I blame T-Series 5 11.36%
 
Google Stadia is doomed 7 15.91%
 
I don't care I still use old TV 2 4.55%
 
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EricHiggin said:
SpokenTruth said:

I repeat. What have I told you guys about bad analogies?

That when I'm required to read between the lines at times, due to making a strong point, that it's not a strong point because reasons?

Read between the lines? You just equated buying and selling stocks with birth and death.  Do I really need to go into details about how ridiculous that is?



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SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

That when I'm required to read between the lines at times, due to making a strong point, that it's not a strong point because reasons?

Read between the lines? You just equated buying and selling stocks with birth and death.  Do I really need to go into details about how ridiculous that is?

No, I was making a correlation between a running a political campaign and purchasing stocks. You said nothing in between buying and selling really matters much, and why should that be any different than life? Your living life in between those moments in time of purchase and sale, and are paying attention to those stocks so you know when to sell in case they start to tank. Who buys then forgets and just magically knows when to sell? People don't have unlimited money or time and can't just allow the stock to tank and lose big. Google isn't too big to fail, and even if they were bailed out, the stock holders can't rely on the Gov.



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Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

Tim is a smart cookie, one of the few real seemingly real investigative journalists we have left.. I'll have to give this a watch. I feel similar to him in that I'm a liberal of a more classical pursuasion (anti-war, anti-censorship, even into the Occupy Wallstreet thing) but has become disaffected by modern day progressivism, and sort of retreated to libertarianism.



EricHiggin said:
SpokenTruth said:

Read between the lines? You just equated buying and selling stocks with birth and death.  Do I really need to go into details about how ridiculous that is?

No, I was making a correlation between a running a political campaign and purchasing stocks. You said nothing in between buying and selling really matters much, and why should that be any different than life? Your living life in between those moments in time of purchase and sale, and are paying attention to those stocks so you know when to sell in case they start to tank. Who buys then forgets and just magically knows when to sell? People don't have unlimited money or time and can't just allow the stock to tank and lose big. Google isn't too big to fail, and even if they were bailed out, the stock holders can't rely on the Gov.

There is no correlation though.

When you purchase stocks you own something and that thing will remain yours until the day you sell it or give it to somebody else. Also, people don't need to sell stocks to make money. You can just continue to own them and earn money from the dividends instead, and considering alphabet just made a profit of over 6 billion dollars (despite what some liars may claim) there's surely going to be some pretty good dividends being paid out still. And they aren't going to fail, anybody who thinks that seriously needs to get their head examined. A company that makes 6 billion dollars in 3 months isn't just going to go bankrupt all of a sudden, don't talk such tosh.

When you run a political campaign you lose money. You always lose money, unless you're in a massively corrupt country where you can steal loads of taxpayer money after getting elected, but otherwise it's a guaranteed loss of money win or lose. You're not doing it to make a profit though, you're doing it to get into a political office. Completely different reason for doing it, completely different method, completely different outcome. It's an atrocious comparison.



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SpokenTruth said:
zero129 said:

So let me get this right. If you go buy a PS4 or XB1 etc game. You dont own it? so if sony or ms etc stop doing gaming they can just come around to your house and take back your games?. If so its news to me. (And i dont just mean the license). If i buy a game i dont give a shit about the license i own that game no one is going to come around and take it off me after their service shuts down. with Stardia that license means something..

I only heard of the "Get Woke go Broke" thing in this thread so im just giving my opinion on maybe why its a thing. Can you name many franchise's such as games or movies etc that has tried to change their audience successfully?, I mean Star Wars is in pretty bad shape after trying to change their audience, Walking Dead has lost viewers etc. You just name Alphabet but how many more is there? like you said many IP's have successfully done this so can you name a few more? also how many IP's has lost money/Customers/Viewers after trying to change their audience compared to how many has successfully done it?.

If your Sony or MS game is digital, then yes, it's largely a licensed to play game.  Say you delete the game, gets corrupted, console stolen, account blocked, etc... and Sony/MS shuts down their storefront.  No more game. Try this...sell your digital copy of God of War.  You own it, don't you?  Then why can't you sell it?  And look at how many physical games now are really just a download code itself or contain just a small part of the game and you have to download the rest of it.


There is a difference in trying to change your audience and expanding your audience.  Star Wars is a bad example because the audience itself has changed.  Anybody that saw Episode IV in the theater is now at least in their 50s and most likely their 60s.  Episode VII was also just a rehash of Episode IV.  That killed the audience who wanted something new way more than did any new political implications (which again SW has always been political).

I don't know anything about the Walking Dead other than its a TV show with zombies. Whatever changes they made are outside of my realm of knowledge.

But again changing an audience is different from expanding your audience.  The former rarely works out because it's hard to create a new audience midway through the course of a series. The latter works out all the time because it's growth.

I guess its a Good thing im a PC player then and not a console player, i own every game i buy digitally on my PC (even if the license says i dont what are they going to do?), i never resell my games anyway. Every game i buy on PC i end up downloading a crack as soon as one is released and save it along with a copy of the game. I can mod the games as much as i please, if i buy games from humble bundle or another bundle said that has games in it that i already own/dont like i can resell them on sites like G2A etc. Now that i think about it i guess this is why im a PC gamer. However with Stardia and i guess digital console games that license does mean something. So i guess i wish stardia to fail and now with the point you made i guess digital console games should too. Even if its not going to happen everyone in their right mind should hope it would. Like i said mobile gaming has done enough damage to our games already without stardia making things worse.

As for star wars i think your right. But really it was episode 8 that destroyed it for me and many other fans.



zero129 said:
SpokenTruth said:

If your Sony or MS game is digital, then yes, it's largely a licensed to play game.  Say you delete the game, gets corrupted, console stolen, account blocked, etc... and Sony/MS shuts down their storefront.  No more game. Try this...sell your digital copy of God of War.  You own it, don't you?  Then why can't you sell it?  And look at how many physical games now are really just a download code itself or contain just a small part of the game and you have to download the rest of it.


There is a difference in trying to change your audience and expanding your audience.  Star Wars is a bad example because the audience itself has changed.  Anybody that saw Episode IV in the theater is now at least in their 50s and most likely their 60s.  Episode VII was also just a rehash of Episode IV.  That killed the audience who wanted something new way more than did any new political implications (which again SW has always been political).

I don't know anything about the Walking Dead other than its a TV show with zombies. Whatever changes they made are outside of my realm of knowledge.

But again changing an audience is different from expanding your audience.  The former rarely works out because it's hard to create a new audience midway through the course of a series. The latter works out all the time because it's growth.

I guess its a Good thing im a PC player then and not a console player, i own every game i buy digitally on my PC (even if the license says i dont what are they going to do?), i never resell my games anyway. Every game i buy on PC i end up downloading a crack as soon as one is released and save it along with a copy of the game. I can mod the games as much as i please, if i buy games from humble bundle or another bundle said that has games in it that i already own/dont like i can resell them on sites like G2A etc. Now that i think about it i guess this is why im a PC gamer. However with Stardia and i guess digital console games that license does mean something. So i guess i wish stardia to fail and now with the point you made i guess digital console games should too. Even if its not going to happen everyone in their right mind should hope it would. Like i said mobile gaming has done enough damage to our games already without stardia making things worse.

As for star wars i think your right. But really it was episode 8 that destroyed it for me and many other fans.

You want Stadia to fail because you can't pirate the games?



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SpokenTruth said:
zero129 said:

I guess its a Good thing im a PC player then and not a console player, i own every game i buy digitally on my PC (even if the license says i dont what are they going to do?), i never resell my games anyway. Every game i buy on PC i end up downloading a crack as soon as one is released and save it along with a copy of the game. I can mod the games as much as i please, if i buy games from humble bundle or another bundle said that has games in it that i already own/dont like i can resell them on sites like G2A etc. Now that i think about it i guess this is why im a PC gamer. However with Stardia and i guess digital console games that license does mean something. So i guess i wish stardia to fail and now with the point you made i guess digital console games should too. Even if its not going to happen everyone in their right mind should hope it would. Like i said mobile gaming has done enough damage to our games already without stardia making things worse.

As for star wars i think your right. But really it was episode 8 that destroyed it for me and many other fans.

You want Stadia to fail because you can't pirate the games?

Did you forget the part before it? you know the part that said "Every game i buy". Oh wait clearly you didn't since that's in you bolded part too so why come back with such a weak response?. I like to own what i buy sorry if you see that as pirating and me not giving in to some license that says i cant. thats why i want stardia to fail, i want to be able to mod my games and do what i want with them as i paid for them they are mine. I feel sorry for you if you want to trow money at something you will never own.



zero129 said:
SpokenTruth said:

You want Stadia to fail because you can't pirate the games?

Did you forget the part before it? you know the part that said "Every game i buy". Oh wait clearly you didn't since that's in you bolded part too so why come back with such a weak response?. I like to own what i buy sorry if you see that as pirating and me not giving in to some license that says i cant. thats why i want stardia to fail, i want to be able to mod my games and do what i want with them as i paid for them they are mine. I feel sorry for you if you want to trow money at something you will never own.

Like Netflix,e books,theater,cinema,zoo's,circus ?

The experience is worth the money,ownership is not needed and not missed for a lot of folks so no need to feel sorry for them.



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"Youtube gets woke, goes broke." Google is still worth at least 100 times what the Trump Organization at its peak was worth.