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OT: I read Roxas will be playable in the KH3 DLC yaaaaaassssssssss. He's always been the better character than Sora


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Kowan said:
HylianSwordsman said:

Yeah but it isn't the main story. Important, sure, but not really the main quest.

It is the main story. Literally all KH games, numbered or not are part of the main story. 

True, and the series is worse for it.

I played all the games, and it became very apparent to me after beating KH3 that it was very unnecessarily stretched out with Shamalan level twists to keep us reeling and ultimately couldn't come to a good conclusion after so many convoluted plot threads. The series story was still strong by Birth By Sleep, but the cell phone games and DDD is where they screwed the pooch in plot lines. I don't think I have ever been more dissatisfied with a conclusion of what started as an epic tale. This includes Game of Thrones.



      

      

      

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Azuren said:
HylianSwordsman said:

I disagree. I know what they're about, I just think that they involve sideplots that tie into the main struggle.

Dream Drop Distance isn't a sideplot, it is imperative to the continued story that it moves forward.

Holy hell, dude, stop commenting on a series you clearly haven't played (or at very least didn't pay attention to).

Look dude, I define it one way, you define it another. The fact of the matter is, I don't give a shit whether DDD is a spinoff or not. I don't care if any of them are. I just hate the way they did this. I love the series, but damn they could have done this better.



HylianSwordsman said:
Azuren said:

Dream Drop Distance isn't a sideplot, it is imperative to the continued story that it moves forward.

Holy hell, dude, stop commenting on a series you clearly haven't played (or at very least didn't pay attention to).

Look dude, I define it one way, you define it another. The fact of the matter is, I don't give a shit whether DDD is a spinoff or not. I don't care if any of them are. I just hate the way they did this. I love the series, but damn they could have done this better.

Okay, so you're saying it's a spin-off because you think a major part of the story isn't major? Because nothing else about DDD says it's a spin-off aside from naming convention.

And I question how much you love the series, considering you don't even know how important BBS or DDD are to the plot.



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Azuren said:
HylianSwordsman said:

Look dude, I define it one way, you define it another. The fact of the matter is, I don't give a shit whether DDD is a spinoff or not. I don't care if any of them are. I just hate the way they did this. I love the series, but damn they could have done this better.

Okay, so you're saying it's a spin-off because you think a major part of the story isn't major? Because nothing else about DDD says it's a spin-off aside from naming convention.

And I question how much you love the series, considering you don't even know how important BBS or DDD are to the plot.

I don't get why you still care dude. You just gotta be right on the internet, huh? I'm not changing my mind, and I love Kingdom Hearts, and you can't take that from me.



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HylianSwordsman said:
Azuren said:

Okay, so you're saying it's a spin-off because you think a major part of the story isn't major? Because nothing else about DDD says it's a spin-off aside from naming convention.

And I question how much you love the series, considering you don't even know how important BBS or DDD are to the plot.

I don't get why you still care dude. You just gotta be right on the internet, huh? I'm not changing my mind, and I love Kingdom Hearts, and you can't take that from me.

You love Kingdom Hearts and you insist the unnumbered titles are spin-offs because they aren't part of the main narrative. I'm sorry, but any KH fan anywhere will tell you BBS, DDD, and CoM are integral chapters of the story. And beyond that, there are fans who will argue the importance of Days and Coded. And what about Union X? It's literally setting the stage for KH4.

Your qualifiers for spin-off don't match the reality of the games you're talking about. It'd be one thing if you wanted to be obtusely conservative in what a spin-off is and just say "anything unnumbered is a spin-off". At least you would be logically consistent. But you literally have no ground to stand on based on your own definition of what a spin-off is to say Dream Drop Distance is one, the only ground you have to stand on with Birth By Sleep is you don't play the as Sora (despite other non-spin-off games in other series featuring new characters and the fact that Sora still plays an important role of Ventus' story), and the only argument you have for Chain of Memories is the combat (though a more hardcore KH fan would point out the heart of CoM's combat, that being stocking abilities with a cool down, seeped into the rest of the series and negates the qualifier). Even Days evolved the combat a bit while shedding light on a semi-important character in KH3 that played a huge role in Lea's character arc. 

The only unnumbered title I would near-completely relinquish as a spin-off is ReCoded due to the fact that the story amounts to "And then Mickey remembered BBS happened", but even that evolved the combat a bit and set the stage of DDD.

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Azuren said:
HylianSwordsman said:

I don't get why you still care dude. You just gotta be right on the internet, huh? I'm not changing my mind, and I love Kingdom Hearts, and you can't take that from me.

You love Kingdom Hearts and you insist the unnumbered titles are spin-offs because they aren't part of the main narrative. I'm sorry, but any KH fan anywhere will tell you BBS, DDD, and CoM are integral chapters of the story. And beyond that, there are fans who will argue the importance of Days and Coded. And what about Union X? It's literally setting the stage for KH4.

Your qualifiers for spin-off don't match the reality of the games you're talking about. It'd be one thing if you wanted to be obtusely conservative in what a spin-off is and just say "anything unnumbered is a spin-off". At least you would be logically consistent. But you literally have no ground to stand on based on your own definition of what a spin-off is to say Dream Drop Distance is one, the only ground you have to stand on with Birth By Sleep is you don't play the as Sora (despite other non-spin-off games in other series featuring new characters and the fact that Sora still plays an important role of Ventus' story), and the only argument you have for Chain of Memories is the combat (though a more hardcore KH fan would point out the heart of CoM's combat, that being stocking abilities with a cool down, seeped into the rest of the series and negates the qualifier). Even Days evolved the combat a bit while shedding light on a semi-important character in KH3 that played a huge role in Lea's character arc. 

The only unnumbered title I would near-completely relinquish as a spin-off is ReCoded due to the fact that the story amounts to "And then Mickey remembered BBS happened", but even that evolved the combat a bit and set the stage of DDD.

Oh my god, you are actually trying to gatekeep Kingdom Hearts. Get over it, I love Kingdom Hearts and think differently than you about it.



HylianSwordsman said:

Azuren said:

You love Kingdom Hearts and you insist the unnumbered titles are spin-offs because they aren't part of the main narrative. I'm sorry, but any KH fan anywhere will tell you BBS, DDD, and CoM are integral chapters of the story. And beyond that, there are fans who will argue the importance of Days and Coded. And what about Union X? It's literally setting the stage for KH4.

Your qualifiers for spin-off don't match the reality of the games you're talking about. It'd be one thing if you wanted to be obtusely conservative in what a spin-off is and just say "anything unnumbered is a spin-off". At least you would be logically consistent. But you literally have no ground to stand on based on your own definition of what a spin-off is to say Dream Drop Distance is one, the only ground you have to stand on with Birth By Sleep is you don't play the as Sora (despite other non-spin-off games in other series featuring new characters and the fact that Sora still plays an important role of Ventus' story), and the only argument you have for Chain of Memories is the combat (though a more hardcore KH fan would point out the heart of CoM's combat, that being stocking abilities with a cool down, seeped into the rest of the series and negates the qualifier). Even Days evolved the combat a bit while shedding light on a semi-important character in KH3 that played a huge role in Lea's character arc. 

The only unnumbered title I would near-completely relinquish as a spin-off is ReCoded due to the fact that the story amounts to "And then Mickey remembered BBS happened", but even that evolved the combat a bit and set the stage of DDD.

Oh my god, you are actually trying to gatekeep Kingdom Hearts. Get over it, I love Kingdom Hearts and think differently than you about it.

Oh my god, have you been reading your own posts? You say you love Kingdom Hearts and then start posting stuff that you would have had to not play Kingdom Hearts to think.

I'm not gatekeeping, you just happened to show you're pretending to know what you're talking about. It's one thing if a casual fan was all "I think they're spinoffs because they aren't numbered". I get that mindset.

But when you claim you're a fan and that there are other reasons games are spin-offs while simultaneously showing you know nothing about the story? At this point, you either know you're wrong and are too stubborn to admit it, or you really just don't know jack about the series. 



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Azuren said:
HylianSwordsman said:

Oh my god, you are actually trying to gatekeep Kingdom Hearts. Get over it, I love Kingdom Hearts and think differently than you about it.

Oh my god, have you been reading your own posts? You say you love Kingdom Hearts and then start posting stuff that you would have had to not play Kingdom Hearts to think.

I'm not gatekeeping, you just happened to show you're pretending to know what you're talking about. It's one thing if a casual fan was all "I think they're spinoffs because they aren't numbered". I get that mindset.

But when you claim you're a fan and that there are other reasons games are spin-offs while simultaneously showing you know nothing about the story? At this point, you either know you're wrong and are too stubborn to admit it, or you really just don't know jack about the series. 

No, I just disagree with you. And yes you are gatekeeping. And you're obsessed. I'm not going to change my mind.



HylianSwordsman said:
Azuren said:

Oh my god, have you been reading your own posts? You say you love Kingdom Hearts and then start posting stuff that you would have had to not play Kingdom Hearts to think.

I'm not gatekeeping, you just happened to show you're pretending to know what you're talking about. It's one thing if a casual fan was all "I think they're spinoffs because they aren't numbered". I get that mindset.

But when you claim you're a fan and that there are other reasons games are spin-offs while simultaneously showing you know nothing about the story? At this point, you either know you're wrong and are too stubborn to admit it, or you really just don't know jack about the series. 

No, I just disagree with you. And yes you are gatekeeping. And you're obsessed. I'm not going to change my mind.

No, I'm not. I'm calling you out for pretending to know what you're talking about, which you clearly don't. When you claim to know enough about something to discuss it, you can't cry "gatekeeping" when someone calls you out for either not knowing anything about it. Unless, of course, you DO know enough about it and are either being stubborn about admitting you're wrong or are simply so mentally inept that you somehow still think DDD isn't a main chapter of the story.

But I think we already got your answer in "I'm not going to change my mind".



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