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Well that was fast.



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I can't wait to see all the hate and vitriol about this game being digital only. After all, that would only be consistent with the way Switch fa-

*sees at best the most modest complaints imaginable*

....Oh....

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



Lafiel said:
looked like a great port in the video we got a few days ago, interested in what DF has to say about it

We are ALL waiting for DF for this game :D



18GB... I'll consider it, but that's a lot of space, as it'd eat up a sixth part of my new 128 GB mSD card.



My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first. 

RolStoppable said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
I can't wait to see all the hate and vitriol about this game being digital only. After all, that would only be consistent with the way Switch fa-

*sees at best the most modest complaints imaginable*

....Oh....

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

It looks like the game costs as much as each one of the Resident Evil ports. Bless Capcom for the adjusted expectations toward third parties.

Wasn't talking about pricing or even Capcom lol. Although yeah that pricing is atrocious.

But for games that only have the issue of being download only they got 1000x the hate that Hellblade does. Go figure. 



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RolStoppable said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Wasn't talking about pricing or even Capcom lol. Although yeah that pricing is atrocious.

But for games that only have the issue of being download only they got 1000x the hate that Hellblade does. Go figure. 

You really hate Hellblade. IIRC, you already complained about AAA games getting flack for being cinematic and linear while indie games are praised for being so creative, then Hellblade shows up and the proponents for indie games praise it for being cinematic and linear.

Well yes I did complain about that. But I don't "hate" the game. Because it doesn't matter what game it is, if it's hypocritical it's hypocritical. 

Also none of what you just said was an argument for anything. 



RolStoppable said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Well yes I did complain about that. But I don't "hate" the game. Because it doesn't matter what game it is, if it's hypocritical it's hypocritical. 

Also none of what you just said was an argument for anything. 

That's because it isn't an argument. I am just sharing my own observations.

I guess but the intention felt pretty obvious. It's the same reason you brought up Capcom first thing when I didn't even mention them. It's a jump in logic to think I meant that company when I meant digital only games in general on Switch (specifically ones where the baggage is *only* being digital). It's also similar to why you brought up "hate". Because in a lot of people's mind if you hate something (which I don't even hate Hellblade), you automatically can't make a valid point about it . It's basically making a point without outright stating an argument. 

Either way I just find it funny. 



RolStoppable said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

I guess but the intention felt pretty obvious. It's the same reason you brought up Capcom first thing when I didn't even mention them. It's a jump in logic to think I meant that company when I meant digital only games in general on Switch (specifically ones where the baggage is *only* being digital). It's also similar to why you brought up "hate". Because in a lot of people's mind if you hate something (which I don't even hate Hellblade), you automatically can't make a valid point about it . It's basically making a point without outright stating an argument. 

Either way I just find it funny. 

If I wanted to make an argument, I would just get to the point.

For example, you consider it hypocrisy when nobody in this thread outright complains about Hellblade being digital-only, so you make that generalized opening post. But you are missing two important factors to call out hypocrisy. For one, you'd need people to say that it is good that the game is digital-only, and two, you'd need those people to be the same ones that have complained about digital-only releases in the past.

When you talk about a group as big as Switch fans, it's pretty easy to find contradictory statements. However, the key is that you have to be able to isolate individuals who are contradicting themselves. If you can't do that, you are just becoming one of those annoying people who like to point with their finger. You can do this the right way like you did in the Global Hardware Sales thread from last week, so stick to that.

Not really. If it was a very specific argument being called hypocritical, maybe. However, all you have to do is see every other thread about big games that are third parties on Switch and you will see it. I mean, for all intents and purposes I'm only talking about the community around Switch on this site, which is big for here but pretty small in the grand scheme of things.

Also it doesn't need to be praising something to be hypocritical. That's just silly. It can be not complaining or complaining to a significantly lesser degree, thus being inconsistent with standards. The opposite of complaining doesn't have to be praising, it can also just be not complaining. 

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RolStoppable said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Not really. If it was a very specific argument being called hypocritical, maybe. However, all you have to do is see every other thread about big games that are third parties on Switch and you will see it. I mean, for all intents and purposes I'm only talking about the community around Switch on this site, which is big but pretty small in the grand scheme of things.

Also it doesn't need to be praising something to be hypocritical. That's just silly. It can be not complaining or complaining to a significantly lesser degree, thus being inconsistent with standards. The opposite of complaining doesn't have to be praising, it can also just be not complaining. 

I hope you realize that your definition of hypocrisy means that someone who isn't aware of the existence of a thread can be labeled a hypocrite. And given how few posts this thread had when you made your initial post, you jumped the gun on this one.

Complaining to a significantly lesser degree has merit for the definition of hypocrisy, but not complaining isn't quite right.

Has there been anyone specifically who you consider to be guilty of hypocritical behavior? Or is it more that you are mistaking the general indifference toward Hellblade for something that it isn't?

Indifference to Hellblade? Now you're stretching it. I don't think this game will be super big, probably won't pass the 1M mark on Switch which a lot of third parties have. However it will still be one of the biggest releases of Spring and probably will do quite well. 

I concede though that I posted that too early in the thread. Honestly though it wouldn't have changed anything if I waited another day or two even ... because it's obvious that the result would be the same. 

As for pointing out specific users again I don't see the point. You're playing blind if you don't think the general behavior towards digital-only games has been nearly entirely negative on this site. However I will say there is a pretty obvious "specific" choice that I'm not going to point out ... feel like it shouldn't even need explaining  



I don't think anybody is particularly satisfied with Hellblade being (for now) digital only, it's more that, as Rol says, there's not a whole lot of enthusiasm about the game in general, at least not here on VGC. Most people here don't seem to care enough to be super pissed off. Still, go to Ninja Theory's twitter announcement of the release date and basically every second tweet in response is demanding a physical release. There's certainly a backlash from the community.