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EricHiggin said:

If I died protecting my family from someone looking to do them harm, and I could be brought back from purgatory years later, only to find the criminal found a loophole or was given an extremely weak sentence, especially if he got back out and ended up harming my family, I'd be beyond pissed. I'd haunt that criminal, judge, and lawyer until they all ended up in the mental institute. Now if I was brought back and that judge or some authority was bragging about how I saved my family and that POS would be behind bars for decades yet and that my family was safe and sound and doing well, even if he was by chance banging my wife and taking care of my kids, I'd finally be able to move on and go in peace. I'd maybe haunt him for a night or two just to mess with him, but then I'd be good. lol

Trump bragging about how great the country they died for is in good taste, even if it happens to be in his favor. It's not like it's anything new. With every agenda fitting gun incident, it doesn't take long after the hopes and prayers before the Dems start getting into weapon restriction politics. Both sides rarely let an opportunity go to waste, no matter how the opposition may feel about it.

You and your analogies.

1. Trump is the president and the Commander in Chief of the military. This is the not acceptable for his station.  For he should both know better and should respect the institution he's stroking his ego over. 

2. Democrats talking gun control after a tragedy is about protecting lives and preventing further tragedy.  Has nothing to do with using a solemn moment to stroke an ego. But again, this is you with your non-sequitur analogy.

3. Can I just point out that you don't say "Happy Memorial Day"?  This isn't a birthday.  You don't say happy regarding fallen soldiers.  When men and women take the day to weep at the graves of lost loved ones.  When vets take remembrance of their brethren that never made it home. The last thing you say to a Gold Star family is, "Happy Memorial Day".  And then brag about an economy (that was largely built by the previous administration anyway).

4. 5 faked draft deferments.  This man doesn't have to the moral right to lead our military let alone represent how to respect the federal holiday of Memorial Day.

5. You might not think it's a big deal but everybody I know in the military or former military isn't happy with it.  That includes me, my wife, my oldest son, my step-father, my brother, his wife, their daughter, my grandfather, all of my staff and on and on.

But let's take things up a notch and look at what he said this year. “I have to wish you all a very happy Memorial Day,"  He said this directly to active service members on the USS Wasp in Japan.  This proves that not only is he clueless about the message "very happy" says but he doesn't even know what Memorial Day really means and who it is for.  But the real kicker, he said it to Japanese soldiers on their ship too.  He is completely and wholly unaware of the context of which he just said those words.  Memorial Day became commonly observed at the end of WWII...the war were we fought Japan. The leader of our military....



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SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

If I died protecting my family from someone looking to do them harm, and I could be brought back from purgatory years later, only to find the criminal found a loophole or was given an extremely weak sentence, especially if he got back out and ended up harming my family, I'd be beyond pissed. I'd haunt that criminal, judge, and lawyer until they all ended up in the mental institute. Now if I was brought back and that judge or some authority was bragging about how I saved my family and that POS would be behind bars for decades yet and that my family was safe and sound and doing well, even if he was by chance banging my wife and taking care of my kids, I'd finally be able to move on and go in peace. I'd maybe haunt him for a night or two just to mess with him, but then I'd be good. lol

Trump bragging about how great the country they died for is in good taste, even if it happens to be in his favor. It's not like it's anything new. With every agenda fitting gun incident, it doesn't take long after the hopes and prayers before the Dems start getting into weapon restriction politics. Both sides rarely let an opportunity go to waste, no matter how the opposition may feel about it.

You and your analogies.

1. Trump is the president and the Commander in Chief of the military. This is the not acceptable for his station.  For he should both know better and should respect the institution he's stroking his ego over. 

2. Democrats talking gun control after a tragedy is about protecting lives and preventing further tragedy.  Has nothing to do with using a solemn moment to stroke an ego. But again, this is you with your non-sequitur analogy.

3. Can I just point out that you don't say "Happy Memorial Day"?  This isn't a birthday.  You don't say happy regarding fallen soldiers.  When men and women take the day to weep at the graves of lost loved ones.  When vets take remembrance of their brethren that never made it home. The last thing you say to a Gold Star family is, "Happy Memorial Day".  And then brag about an economy (that was largely built by the previous administration anyway).

4. 5 faked draft deferments.  This man doesn't have to the moral right to lead our military let alone represent how to respect the federal holiday of Memorial Day.

5. You might not think it's a big deal but everybody I know in the military or former military isn't happy with it.  That includes me, my wife, my oldest son, my step-father, my brother, his wife, their daughter, my grandfather, all of my staff and on and on.

But let's take things up a notch and look at what he said this year. “I have to wish you all a very happy Memorial Day,"  He said this directly to active service members on the USS Wasp in Japan.  This proves that not only is he clueless about the message "very happy" says but he doesn't even know what Memorial Day really means and who it is for.  But the real kicker, he said it to Japanese soldiers on their ship too.  He is completely and wholly unaware of the context of which he just said those words.  Memorial Day became commonly observed at the end of WWII...the war were we fought Japan. The leader of our military....

1. Let's all agree on what is and isn't Presidential or politically correct, and then name everything every President has ever done that's 'wrong'. What a short list that will be for each...

2. So why do we only hear about it during gun incidents and not consistently? If nothing get's done about it, then how are they preventing further incidents?

3. You mean like coming together and celebrating the death of Christ or any prophet or savior? Man those religious people are terrible. No wonder why they vote for him...

4. I agree, Obama or Hillary were way more qualified. Just look at how often they used the military. Lucky ISIS just gave up when Trump showed up...

5. It's unfortunate you feel that way, but how large is the military and who speaks for them?

No more nuking makes me feel pretty happy.



The Canadian National Anthem According To Justin Trudeau

 

Oh planet Earth! The home of native lands, 
True social law, in all of us demand.
With cattle farts, we view sea rise,
Our North sinking slowly.
From far and snide, oh planet Earth, 
Our healthcare is yours free!
Science save our land, harnessing the breeze,
Oh planet Earth, smoke weed and ferment yeast.
Oh planet Earth, ell gee bee queue and tee.

SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

If I died protecting my family from someone looking to do them harm, and I could be brought back from purgatory years later, only to find the criminal found a loophole or was given an extremely weak sentence, especially if he got back out and ended up harming my family, I'd be beyond pissed. I'd haunt that criminal, judge, and lawyer until they all ended up in the mental institute. Now if I was brought back and that judge or some authority was bragging about how I saved my family and that POS would be behind bars for decades yet and that my family was safe and sound and doing well, even if he was by chance banging my wife and taking care of my kids, I'd finally be able to move on and go in peace. I'd maybe haunt him for a night or two just to mess with him, but then I'd be good. lol

Trump bragging about how great the country they died for is in good taste, even if it happens to be in his favor. It's not like it's anything new. With every agenda fitting gun incident, it doesn't take long after the hopes and prayers before the Dems start getting into weapon restriction politics. Both sides rarely let an opportunity go to waste, no matter how the opposition may feel about it.

You and your analogies.

Found another one for ya below. You forgot to point it out and score it.

the-pi-guy said:
jason1637 said:

But that's liek comparing apples to oranges. Like a pastor making a church better does have an affect on the church goers but not to the magnitude that a good economy will. Some soldiers find it hard to find jobs after they have served so a good economy and low unemployment benefits them a lot.

How about this:

Imagine your dad was a police officer who died protecting the church.  

Imagine during the eulogy, the pastor briefly mentioned your dad, then spent most of his time talking about how well the church was doing, how the church staff was making more money than they ever had. 



The Canadian National Anthem According To Justin Trudeau

 

Oh planet Earth! The home of native lands, 
True social law, in all of us demand.
With cattle farts, we view sea rise,
Our North sinking slowly.
From far and snide, oh planet Earth, 
Our healthcare is yours free!
Science save our land, harnessing the breeze,
Oh planet Earth, smoke weed and ferment yeast.
Oh planet Earth, ell gee bee queue and tee.

EricHiggin said:

If I died protecting my family from someone looking to do them harm, and I could be brought back from purgatory years later, only to find the criminal found a loophole or was given an extremely weak sentence, especially if he got back out and ended up harming my family, I'd be beyond pissed. I'd haunt that criminal, judge, and lawyer until they all ended up in the mental institute. Now if I was brought back and that judge or some authority was bragging about how I saved my family and that POS would be behind bars for decades yet and that my family was safe and sound and doing well, even if he was by chance banging my wife and taking care of my kids, I'd finally be able to move on and go in peace. I'd maybe haunt him for a night or two just to mess with him, but then I'd be good. lol

I don't particularly see any major parallels with this story and the examples that were given.  

EricHiggin said:

Trump bragging about how great the country they died for is in good taste, even if it happens to be in his favor. It's not like it's anything new. 

Taste is subjective.  I would have taken it to be in better taste, if he at least dedicated a full tweet to the people that died for this country.  

The bothersome part for me is that Obama got hit on for less.

EricHiggin said:

With every agenda fitting gun incident, it doesn't take long after the hopes and prayers before the Dems start getting into weapon restriction politics. Both sides rarely let an opportunity go to waste, no matter how the opposition may feel about it.

it's almost like after a shooting is the perfect time to talk about preventing more shootings. 



Trump's goons just deported an American citizen, with 0 criminal record, after detaining him and forcing him to eat pork because they knew he was Muslim, just because they could.



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EricHiggin said:
SpokenTruth said:

You and your analogies.

1. Trump is the president and the Commander in Chief of the military. This is the not acceptable for his station.  For he should both know better and should respect the institution he's stroking his ego over. 

2. Democrats talking gun control after a tragedy is about protecting lives and preventing further tragedy.  Has nothing to do with using a solemn moment to stroke an ego. But again, this is you with your non-sequitur analogy.

3. Can I just point out that you don't say "Happy Memorial Day"?  This isn't a birthday.  You don't say happy regarding fallen soldiers.  When men and women take the day to weep at the graves of lost loved ones.  When vets take remembrance of their brethren that never made it home. The last thing you say to a Gold Star family is, "Happy Memorial Day".  And then brag about an economy (that was largely built by the previous administration anyway).

4. 5 faked draft deferments.  This man doesn't have to the moral right to lead our military let alone represent how to respect the federal holiday of Memorial Day.

5. You might not think it's a big deal but everybody I know in the military or former military isn't happy with it.  That includes me, my wife, my oldest son, my step-father, my brother, his wife, their daughter, my grandfather, all of my staff and on and on.

But let's take things up a notch and look at what he said this year. “I have to wish you all a very happy Memorial Day,"  He said this directly to active service members on the USS Wasp in Japan.  This proves that not only is he clueless about the message "very happy" says but he doesn't even know what Memorial Day really means and who it is for.  But the real kicker, he said it to Japanese soldiers on their ship too.  He is completely and wholly unaware of the context of which he just said those words.  Memorial Day became commonly observed at the end of WWII...the war were we fought Japan. The leader of our military....

1. Let's all agree on what is and isn't Presidential or politically correct, and then name everything every President has ever done that's 'wrong'. What a short list that will be for each...

2. So why do we only hear about it during gun incidents and not consistently? If nothing get's done about it, then how are they preventing further incidents?

3. You mean like coming together and celebrating the death of Christ or any prophet or savior? Man those religious people are terrible. No wonder why they vote for him...

4. I agree, Obama or Hillary were way more qualified. Just look at how often they used the military. Lucky ISIS just gave up when Trump showed up...

5. It's unfortunate you feel that way, but how large is the military and who speaks for them?

6. No more nuking makes me feel pretty happy.

1). So you're OK with him stroking his ego while insulting the fallen soldiers of the very armed forces he is elected to lead? You're OK with a leader that is ignorant of protocols, decorum, procedure, propriety, operations and standards for the function he leads?

2). Uh, we do hear it constantly.  You just don't watch, read or listen to the news or editorials that lend to such discussions. Besides, when you have what amounts to a mass shooting practically every week...that's a pretty constant discussion.  And I say discussion in the loosest terms given the right has no interest whatsoever in said discussion.

3). You might want to talk to a Catholic or Muslim.  They do mourn their solemn holidays.  That said, the methods of observation for one group regarding their ceremonial institutions and special days are not directly equitable in methods of observation for other groups. By the way, Good Friday and Passover are not generally a 'celebrated' day.  You don't say, "Happy Good Friday" do you (I really hope not)?  Hang on....were you thinking of Easter?  The celebration of Jesus resurrection and rising from the grave?

All that aside, the observance of Memorial Day has always been one of solemnity, introspection, sacrifice, and sorrow.  In fact, by law, we are supposed to pause at 3 PM for 1 minute in silent observation.

4). You know ISIS isn't defeated, right?  I hope you didn't believe Trump when he made that claim. Even his own national security advisor, John Bolton, has had to admit they are not defeated. How did Yemen turnout, by the way?  And aren't we looking at a war with Iran now?  But that's irrelevant because you are playing the whataboutism game. But Obama this and Clinton that.  Are they president right now?  No.  Aren't you the people that always tell us "He won, get over it"? In other words, accept that Trump is president and deal with it.  Well, I'm dealing with it and calling him out for his bereft qualifications for military leadership.

5). Active duty is about 1.4 million.  A further 800,000 in reserves.  Plus around 21 million veterans. So about 23 million directly connected plus dozens of millions more family.  Who speaks for them requires a multifaceted answer.  One could say Trump himself as he is the Command in Chief. Another answer is the Secretary of Defense, James Mattis.  A 3rd option is the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the senior most military officer in the US, General Joseph Dunford, USMC. The first two are considered civilians and not actually military. And of course you can see each member speaks for themselves. But most who have personally spoken on the issue are not "happy" about it.

6). Well, hell yes that's something to be happy about.  Not sure what M.A.D. has to do with Memorial Day but I'm happy about it to.  So does it worry you any that Trump kept asking his foreign policy experts why we can't just use nukes?



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CaptainExplosion said:

Trump's goons just deported an American citizen, with 0 criminal record, after detaining him and forcing him to eat pork because they knew he was Muslim, just because they could.

The guy wasn't a US citizen but he was a legal immigrant so this situation is still fucked. But still I doubt anyone higher up in the admin knew about this specific situation. This was probably handled by the officers in the immigration center he stayed at.



jason1637 said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Trump's goons just deported an American citizen, with 0 criminal record, after detaining him and forcing him to eat pork because they knew he was Muslim, just because they could.

The guy wasn't a US citizen but he was a legal immigrant so this situation is still fucked. But still I doubt anyone higher up in the admin knew about this specific situation. This was probably handled by the officers in the immigration center he stayed at.

Still, the fact that such a thing is even possible to happen is just disgusting. I'm pretty sure they will get out scot-free, while in most countries in Europe, they would have been fired on the spot and face legal troubles for their discriminal behaviors.



CaptainExplosion said:

Trump's goons just deported an American citizen, with 0 criminal record, after detaining him and forcing him to eat pork because they knew he was Muslim, just because they could.

Those bastards need to loose their jobs asap 



the-pi-guy said:
EricHiggin said:

If I died protecting my family from someone looking to do them harm, and I could be brought back from purgatory years later, only to find the criminal found a loophole or was given an extremely weak sentence, especially if he got back out and ended up harming my family, I'd be beyond pissed. I'd haunt that criminal, judge, and lawyer until they all ended up in the mental institute. Now if I was brought back and that judge or some authority was bragging about how I saved my family and that POS would be behind bars for decades yet and that my family was safe and sound and doing well, even if he was by chance banging my wife and taking care of my kids, I'd finally be able to move on and go in peace. I'd maybe haunt him for a night or two just to mess with him, but then I'd be good. lol

I don't particularly see any major parallels with this story and the examples that were given.  

EricHiggin said:

Trump bragging about how great the country they died for is in good taste, even if it happens to be in his favor. It's not like it's anything new. 

Taste is subjective.  I would have taken it to be in better taste, if he at least dedicated a full tweet to the people that died for this country.  

The bothersome part for me is that Obama got hit on for less.

EricHiggin said:

With every agenda fitting gun incident, it doesn't take long after the hopes and prayers before the Dems start getting into weapon restriction politics. Both sides rarely let an opportunity go to waste, no matter how the opposition may feel about it.

it's almost like after a shooting is the perfect time to talk about preventing more shootings. 

When is the right time to talk about fallen soldiers, the economy, or jobs?

SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

1. Let's all agree on what is and isn't Presidential or politically correct, and then name everything every President has ever done that's 'wrong'. What a short list that will be for each...

2. So why do we only hear about it during gun incidents and not consistently? If nothing get's done about it, then how are they preventing further incidents?

3. You mean like coming together and celebrating the death of Christ or any prophet or savior? Man those religious people are terrible. No wonder why they vote for him...

4. I agree, Obama or Hillary were way more qualified. Just look at how often they used the military. Lucky ISIS just gave up when Trump showed up...

5. It's unfortunate you feel that way, but how large is the military and who speaks for them?

6. No more nuking makes me feel pretty happy.

1). So you're OK with him stroking his ego while insulting the fallen soldiers of the very armed forces he is elected to lead? You're OK with a leader that is ignorant of protocols, decorum, procedure, propriety, operations and standards for the function he leads?

2). Uh, we do hear it constantly.  You just don't watch, read or listen to the news or editorials that lend to such discussions. Besides, when you have what amounts to a mass shooting practically every week...that's a pretty constant discussion.  And I say discussion in the loosest terms given the right has no interest whatsoever in said discussion.

3). You might want to talk to a Catholic or Muslim.  They do mourn their solemn holidays.  That said, the methods of observation for one group regarding their ceremonial institutions and special days are not directly equitable in methods of observation for other groups. By the way, Good Friday and Passover are not generally a 'celebrated' day.  You don't say, "Happy Good Friday" do you (I really hope not)?  Hang on....were you thinking of Easter?  The celebration of Jesus resurrection and rising from the grave?

All that aside, the observance of Memorial Day has always been one of solemnity, introspection, sacrifice, and sorrow.  In fact, by law, we are supposed to pause at 3 PM for 1 minute in silent observation.

4). You know ISIS isn't defeated, right?  I hope you didn't believe Trump when he made that claim. Even his own national security advisor, John Bolton, has had to admit they are not defeated. How did Yemen turnout, by the way?  And aren't we looking at a war with Iran now?  But that's irrelevant because you are playing the whataboutism game. But Obama this and Clinton that.  Are they president right now?  No.  Aren't you the people that always tell us "He won, get over it"? In other words, accept that Trump is president and deal with it.  Well, I'm dealing with it and calling him out for his bereft qualifications for military leadership.

5). Active duty is about 1.4 million.  A further 800,000 in reserves.  Plus around 21 million veterans. So about 23 million directly connected plus dozens of millions more family.  Who speaks for them requires a multifaceted answer.  One could say Trump himself as he is the Command in Chief. Another answer is the Secretary of Defense, James Mattis.  A 3rd option is the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the senior most military officer in the US, General Joseph Dunford, USMC. The first two are considered civilians and not actually military. And of course you can see each member speaks for themselves. But most who have personally spoken on the issue are not "happy" about it.

6). Well, hell yes that's something to be happy about.  Not sure what M.A.D. has to do with Memorial Day but I'm happy about it to.  So does it worry you any that Trump kept asking his foreign policy experts why we can't just use nukes?

1. He's not insulting them. What about silicon valley? Steve Jobs let's say? What a horrible person who didn't just follow suit and decided to do their own thing in so many different ways. BAD APPLE!

2. We? I don't live in an echo chamber? Preventing future incidents, yet they continue to happen weekly?

3. GOOD Friday? GOOD? If nobody follows the law and nobody enforces it, well...

4. No I'm not. Where did you get that idea? You realize if Trump lost that would by default have made Hillary Prez? Just brush that one off? If neither would be worthy, then you're saying both sides should complain, for the sake of complaining, knowing neither was fit for that part of the position? Complain because reasons?

5. Orange = Bad. Great math lesson.

6. Worries me about as much as the Dems/Left not understanding why they lost, and then blaming everything but the actual reasons why they lost. If only the U.S. Gov had checks and balances...



The Canadian National Anthem According To Justin Trudeau

 

Oh planet Earth! The home of native lands, 
True social law, in all of us demand.
With cattle farts, we view sea rise,
Our North sinking slowly.
From far and snide, oh planet Earth, 
Our healthcare is yours free!
Science save our land, harnessing the breeze,
Oh planet Earth, smoke weed and ferment yeast.
Oh planet Earth, ell gee bee queue and tee.