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shikamaru317 said:

As far as pricing goes, hoping for this:

Rental: Possible to rent games in 3/10/30 day increments for say $6/$15/$30
Purchase: Possible to buy games for their standard retail value on other platforms, so $60 for new AAA's with price drops over time, less for indies
Service: A collection of games available for $10-15 a month, including some or all of their 1st party games, similar to Xbox Gamepass

I think they should have a standard version with lets say 100 games that cost $10-15 a month and first party games will be free on this bundle. But ehey should also have a plan to buy games that are not in the standard pack. So the prices you mentioned but also $60 to own.



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Random_Matt said:
Wait, did someone say this is better than a console? Lol.

Not for you or me. But for many it will be better. Alone the pick up and play with whatever device (with Chrome on it) will it make ten times better for many people who are currently non-gamers or sporadical gamers. The hardware will allow for new gaming experiences and the option for multiplayer were actually impressive. So yes, we two will stay with traditional consoles for the time being, but face it: the majority of people is not playing video games currently, but I think at least half of the people would play video games if it matched certain criterias. Stadia pushes the boundary and therefore will reach new customers.



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Mnementh said:
Random_Matt said:
Wait, did someone say this is better than a console? Lol.

Not for you or me. But for many it will be better. Alone the pick up and play with whatever device (with Chrome on it) will it make ten times better for many people who are currently non-gamers or sporadical gamers. The hardware will allow for new gaming experiences and the option for multiplayer were actually impressive. So yes, we two will stay with traditional consoles for the time being, but face it: the majority of people is not playing video games currently, but I think at least half of the people would play video games if it matched certain criterias. Stadia pushes the boundary and therefore will reach new customers.

How true is that, though? Every market has a certain limit, and customers have one too. Either time, money or interest will limit how much a single market can grow, and at that point. How much can this branch of gaming grow before diminishing returns set in? How many people are satisied with just mobile games or casual PC games, and thus have no interest in this service? Stadia aims to bring AAA experiences to every platform they can, but those offers may only interest a certain demographic, one that is already quite crowded and also is, in the eyes of many, becoming stale.



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General consensus of Stadia on the Internet: Positive
General consensus of Stadia on a forum filled with fanboys: Negative



RaptorChrist said:
General consensus of Stadia on the Internet: Positive
General consensus of Stadia on a forum filled with fanboys: Negative



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RaptorChrist said:
General consensus of Stadia on the Internet: Positive
General consensus of Stadia on a forum filled with fanboys: Negative

What's "the internet"? Youtube?

From what I've seen on the 2 gaming sites where I've read some comments, the reaction has indeed been more negative than positive.



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RaptorChrist said:
General consensus of Stadia on the Internet: Positive
General consensus of Stadia on a forum filled with fanboys: Negative

I haven't read anywhere where the vibe is generally positive. I'm sure there's probably a new r/stadia subreddit where it's like Christmas morning and everyone is gleefully celebrating it, but in general? The vibe seems to be negative to fence-sitting for most people.



dharh said:
potato_hamster said:

6. If google shuts down Stadia, your entire game library on that platform is no longer able to be played.

6.  This is a problem already for any person who buys digitally.  Obviously it's much less likely that SONY just goes completely dead tomorrow and all your digital stuff poofs than it is for Google to abandon Stadia in two years like some predict.  However, I think they want to be in on this for the long haul.  Even if this were only just google play game apps on all devices everywhere it would still be a profit maker.  If they can pull off Triple A games everywhere and everyone but us diehards buy into it, it will be massive.

No it's not.

Digital downloads and streaming is very different.

If Sony goes out of business tomorrow I'll still be able to play any and all my downloads games on PS3/PS4.

Unless you mean PS+ freebies.

Downloaded games are saved on your drives, not the cloud.

If I never connect my system to the internet anymore even if the company has malicious intentitions of bricking my consoles or locking my games throught a patch they still simply can't reach it.

Physical media is still king because they would need to come with a hammer to my house and destroy my games to be able to make me stop playing them but digital downloads are still a lot safer than streaming.

Actually streaming is not safe at all. If there is no server there is no game. We might even see exclusives just never being able to be played anymore.

Look at P.T., if you downloaded it you still can play it as much as you want on your PS4. If it was a stream exclusive game nobody would be able to play it anymore. Nobody.



BraLoD said:
dharh said:

6.  This is a problem already for any person who buys digitally.  Obviously it's much less likely that SONY just goes completely dead tomorrow and all your digital stuff poofs than it is for Google to abandon Stadia in two years like some predict.  However, I think they want to be in on this for the long haul.  Even if this were only just google play game apps on all devices everywhere it would still be a profit maker.  If they can pull off Triple A games everywhere and everyone but us diehards buy into it, it will be massive.

No it's not.

Digital downloads and streaming is very different.

If Sony goes out of business tomorrow I'll still be able to play any and all my downloads games on PS3/PS4.

Unless you mean PS+ freebies.

Downloaded games are saved on your drives, not the cloud.

If I never connect my system to the internet anymore even if the company has malicious intentitions of bricking my consoles or locking my games throught a patch they still simply can't reach it.

Physical media is still king because they would need to come with a hammer to my house and destroy my games to be able to make me stop playing them but digital downloads are still a lot safer than streaming.

Actually streaming is not safe at all. If there is no server there is no game. We might even see exclusives just never being able to be played anymore.

Look at P.T., if you downloaded it you still can play it as much as you want on your PS4. If it was a stream exclusive game nobody would be able to play it anymore. Nobody.

If you need to delete a game to make room for another.  Own more games than you have space for.  This is a problem for my PS3 and Steam btw.

Even physical media these days are not immune.  How about when PS3 is completely end of life-ed.  Will we still be able to download patches for games? DLC? Do I seriously want to play a game that required a 50gig day 1 patch that can no longer be patched?

What about when that console dies.  Swap hard drives into another console?

There are probably mmos that have been completely lost to the ether.

I know you can keep your games that you've already downloaded, that's a given.  But I respectfully disagree that you are immune from losing your stuff.



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dharh said:
BraLoD said:

No it's not.

Digital downloads and streaming is very different.

If Sony goes out of business tomorrow I'll still be able to play any and all my downloads games on PS3/PS4.

Unless you mean PS+ freebies.

Downloaded games are saved on your drives, not the cloud.

If I never connect my system to the internet anymore even if the company has malicious intentitions of bricking my consoles or locking my games throught a patch they still simply can't reach it.

Physical media is still king because they would need to come with a hammer to my house and destroy my games to be able to make me stop playing them but digital downloads are still a lot safer than streaming.

Actually streaming is not safe at all. If there is no server there is no game. We might even see exclusives just never being able to be played anymore.

Look at P.T., if you downloaded it you still can play it as much as you want on your PS4. If it was a stream exclusive game nobody would be able to play it anymore. Nobody.

If you need to delete a game to make room for another.  Own more games than you have space for.  This is a problem for my PS3 and Steam btw.

Even physical media these days are not immune.  How about when PS3 is completely end of life-ed.  Will we still be able to download patches for games? DLC? Do I seriously want to play a game that required a 50gig day 1 patch that can no longer be patched?

What about when that console dies.  Swap hard drives into another console?

There are probably mmos that have been completely lost to the ether.

I know you can keep your games that you've already downloaded, that's a given.  But I respectfully disagree that you are immune from losing your stuff.

I'm immune to losing my games.

There is no problem with space on PS4 as I just need an extra external drive.

On PS3 where I can't do that, there are basically no games that need big patches, even if I somehow deleted the patches I already have I still could play those games without big problems.

Always online games as MMOs are mostly faded to that by default, that is not a problem, that's their model, also, I still have to play a MMO on my consoles, so that can't affect me.

As long as games come on in people possession there is always a way to make a copy to something you already have to keep that game safe from sudden loses/equippment failures (as carts, discs or drives), and as long as I possess a game I can keep such copies.

Streaming is completely dependant on who you are getting it from, if he can't or don't want to keep it up anymore everything can simply get wasted forever.

Streaming is a nice option, specially to smaller games, it can do wonders for them, but it's a terrible singular media.

If streaming only is the future of gaming, gaming is dead.

If it keep physical/download only (no mandatory connection)? It can last forever.

Ownership is always better in my hand than into someone's else, that's my take on it, and as long as I can I'll not want it to get taken away from me.

And I already have a whole lot they simply can't.