Guys, please don't fight over policies so much.

Especially since I doubt there won't be much differences between the policies enacted by Bernie, Tulsi and Warren in the end due to what they can get through House and Senate.

I agree with this.  There just isn't any way that either of them will get any of their major policies through congress since they cannot win either Dems or GOP support along those lines.  They would really need to be savvy politically in order to accomplish any of their major agendas but it would be interesting to see a Presidency with one in office.

But that's why I want Bernie over Warren. He doesn't need Dems or GOP, he has our support. "Political Revolution" isn't just a campaign slogan. It's a plan, a strategy. 

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/19/bernie-sanders-labor-protest-2020-1455151

This was the strategy he used to get Amazon, which I might remind you, is a giant, greedy in the extreme corporation, not a democratic institution, to raise its minimum wage to $15 an hour. He'll wield the bully pulpit like a club and beat Congress into submission by leading us all against them. Imagine Operation Wall Street, right outside Congress, led by President Sanders. That's what will happen. That's how he'll get Congress to act. Its an untested strategy for the executive branch of the federal government, but I want to try it. At the very least, he'll go into any bargaining situation with a stronger position than anyone else, rather than trying to compromise before he even starts like Dems do now in hope of getting "bipartisan" support in the form of one or two vulnerable Republicans voting for a watered down version of their bill.

Not sure if you're serious? We haven't really been fighting about policies at all for several days now. It's been mostly about their strategy, rhetoric, our motivations for voting for them, and a few clusterfuck discussions that were mostly off topic about Trump, Russia, Venezuela, and everyone's personal belief systems.

Or was that the joke?

Congress isn't everything. There is still a lot that can be accomplished with executive power.

Well hey, I'm glad you're inspired to get into politics!

To be clear, I am a democratic socialist, by which I mean specifically that personally my preference would be for a broad reorganization of the economy such that the means of production would become public property, workers would manage their workplaces day-to-day, and the economy would be democratically planned out routinely by the population as a whole in a participatory fashion. I believe this would require a general devolution of political power to more local levels. There are a number of communities around the world that currently live in this sort of communalist fashion and they're my source of inspiration in this area. Nobody in the U.S. Congress or running for president advocates this type of broad restructuring or even close. All the progressive elected officials at the national level are reformists, whatever they claim about themselves.

That said, I'm a pragmatist and as such am inclined to support those reforms which move society in the general direction of the type of change that I believe in. In the area of economic policy in particular, AOC advocates many ideas that I strongly agree with and support, and I would commend her for leading the House Democrats to formally, at least on paper, embrace the Green New Deal. In a general sense, I consider the economic policy ideas of the progressive Democrats their strong suit. That's the main reason I view them more favorably than other political factions that exist in the U.S. at this time. That includes AOC.

However, there are other policy areas where I don't agree as much with the progressive movement, and in which it could be said I agree less with AOC than with the likes of Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. Foreign policy is definitely one of those areas. I'm in favor of a moderate approach. When it comes to policy toward Israel, for example, I'm for cutting off military aid for painfully obvious reasons, but I don't go so far necessarily as to support imposing broad sanctions on what frankly is really the only halfway functioning liberal democracy in the Middle East because "Benjamins". When it comes to stuff like this, I think you can see how my own views are more similar to those of Warren and Sanders than to those of AOC and "the squad".

I think it's also worth pointing out that, though I do consider myself to be a democratic socialist, a feminist, an environmentalist, pro-immigrant, an opponent of mass incarceration, this sort of thing, I don't actually consider myself to be a progressive these days. That's because I've found that progressives don't view me as one of them. The specific term "progressive" appears to have a very specific connotation in the current parlance. For example, I'm not allowed on the Revolutionary Left forums because I have voiced openness to deep green politics, not just bright green; deep green apparently being considered reactionary. From this I gather that the term "progressive" in the contemporary parlance specifically includes not just the general goal of improved equity in economics, politics, and cultural life, but also insistence upon technological advancement. I find I'm not allowed in other progressive spaces either for this and other reasons ranging from my opinions about women's right to private spaces and freedom of speech to my negative view of religion. Over the decade, I've found that voicing any kind of support for radical feminist groups like Femen and well frankly any of current South Korean feminism has been a particularly sure-fire way to get removed from progressive spaces quickly.

I've thought about embracing the term "moderate" because a lot of politically marginal people do so, but it just doesn't sound accurate to me. I need a label that sums up my overall worldview on all the issues and I can't think of one that's accurate.

For further clarity on my level of support for the people we're talking about here, I would say that I agree with...

...Elizabeth Warren about 80% of the time...
...Bernie Sanders about 75% of the time...
...AOC about 70% of the time...
...Joe Biden about 55% of the time...
...Donald Trump and Mike Pence about 10% of the time each, for different reasons.

Something like that.

To get established old heads in Congress to go along with Bernie plans would be a revolutions but in order for that to happen, he would need to control the party at the same level Trump controls the GOP.  Dems and GOP are different in that respect and Dems are so diverse in what they want, I just do not believe he can get enough of them to fall in line.  I can definitely be wrong so I would love to see what he can do but it would be interesting to see what political power Bernie could weld if he became president.

So you are a democratic socialist, nice! And yeah I see now why you'd vote for Warren. My political identities are basically the same things as you but my feminism is intersectional not radical. On Israel I'm more in line with AOC and the squad. I believe we need to be clear on where we stand on the human rights violations the Israeli government commits to the Palestinians. I'm Jewish so it pains me to see how their government is behaving and I really do want to see Israel flourish but not at the expense of others, we need to set our boundaries of how far we're willing to enable their government.

Don't let the haters get you down, I've always thought of you as a progressive and from what you've told me it does sound like you are one. But I guess you could go with something generic like "economic populist" though basically all progressives are populists but idk honestly. Regardless don't change how you identify based on others reactions toward you and how they make you feel "not in the club," they're just judgemental purists. Change your political identity because of yourself.

I agree with AOC the most probably like 85-90% of the time, Bernie about 85%, Liz about 70-75%, Biden about 20-30%, 45 and vp 0% of the time.

I generally have a positive view of Israel, but I can't stand Netanyahu. Partisan, toxic, and borderline far-right. His disrespect and contempt towards Obama was disgraceful. How does a foreign leader come to the US to speak in opposition to the head of state? How can he complain about the no-strings-attached US aid?
American friendship with Israel must continue, but unless Netanyahu is out or does a 180 in his undiplomatic conduct, he should expect a cold shoulder.

Also, I wonder what my percentage of agreement is with Trump.
I have to give him credit for recognizing Venezuela's Guaido and pushing for him, but I can't think of anything else.
His tax cuts were fiscally irresponsible and gave nonsensical breaks to the ultra-rich, he is really bad for tech, bad for long-term growth. Besides Venezuela, his foreign policy blows. He dislikes traditional media.
I guess you could argue there might be some overlap in law enforcement, but that's a hard sell considering he is a borderline criminal.
So ~5%?
Regardless, thanks to Trump and McConnell, I'm ultra partisan. I'd choose a Dem I despise (the Squad) over a good, rational Republican (Murkowski) any day of the week.