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MrWayne said:
the-pi-guy said:

How horrible of Obama and Clinton to use a broader term that could include people that aren't Christians.

As a Christian, this is the biggest nothing being used to attack Obama Ive seen.

That's not that strange, seeing as how when they tweeted, no one knew who the perpetrators were. 

Besides mentioning that the terror attack was perpetrated by Muslims doesn't mean much.  Liberals avoid that terminology because people have the tendency to attack people that don't have anything to do with the attacks, just because they are Muslim.  There's no nefarious plot, there's no liberal agenda.  Just an avoidance of the BS.

The fact that conservative news outlets are writing reports about how Obama and Clinton using a more inclusive term than Christian says more about the news outlet's agenda than it says of any left narrative or Obama's agenda.  

Hm I think it's valid to ask why they used to term "easter worshippers" instead of Christians. As far as I know nobody called the victims of the New Zealand mosque shooter "Friday Prayer worshippers" or something like that.

"easter worshippers" isn't even a more inclusive term than Christians because we have no clue if the non Christians, who were killed in the churches, even "worshipped easter".

Edit: Also "easter worshippers" in a church celebrate to birth of god's son, Jesus Christ and how do we call such people? Christians

So if you think that Easter worshippers in a church are by definition Christian then what's the issue?

Obama: it's sad that 10 squares will killed this Saturday.

Conservative: Fuckin' coward doesn't want to say that rectangles were murdered.



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Torillian said:
MrWayne said:

Hm I think it's valid to ask why they used to term "easter worshippers" instead of Christians. As far as I know nobody called the victims of the New Zealand mosque shooter "Friday Prayer worshippers" or something like that.

"easter worshippers" isn't even a more inclusive term than Christians because we have no clue if the non Christians, who were killed in the churches, even "worshipped easter".

Edit: Also "easter worshippers" in a church celebrate to birth of god's son, Jesus Christ and how do we call such people? Christians

So if you think that Easter worshippers in a church are by definition Christian then what's the issue?

Obama: it's sad that 10 squares will killed this Saturday.

Conservative: Fuckin' coward doesn't want to say that rectangles were murdered.

Why are they(not only Clinton and Obama) using this strange term instead of the much more well known term?
I think they did that because they are afraid, many far right figures use islamist terror attacks against Christians as justification for their anti muslim agenda and they don't want to feed into that. But I think hiding behind ambiguous words is the wrong responds.



MrWayne said:
Torillian said:

So if you think that Easter worshippers in a church are by definition Christian then what's the issue?

Obama: it's sad that 10 squares will killed this Saturday.

Conservative: Fuckin' coward doesn't want to say that rectangles were murdered.

Why are they(not only Clinton and Obama) using this strange term instead of the much more well known term?
I think they did that because they are afraid, many far right figures use islamist terror attacks against Christians as justification for their anti muslim agenda and they don't want to feed into that. But I think hiding behind ambiguous words is the wrong responds.

Perhaps, or maybe they said Easter worshippers because the attack happened on Easter. I disagree with the idea that the term is more ambiguous because like you said the only people who would be worshipping in a church on Easter would be Christians.



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Torillian said:
MrWayne said:

Why are they(not only Clinton and Obama) using this strange term instead of the much more well known term?
I think they did that because they are afraid, many far right figures use islamist terror attacks against Christians as justification for their anti muslim agenda and they don't want to feed into that. But I think hiding behind ambiguous words is the wrong responds.

Perhaps, or maybe they said Easter worshippers because the attack happened on Easter. I disagree with the idea that the term is more ambiguous because like you said the only people who would be worshipping in a church on Easter would be Christians.

We will never know what their real intent was but if they just used "Christian" nobody would have a problem with that and the far right wouldn't have the munition to produce a outrage.

I think many liberals and lefties are overly careful when it comes to terrorist attacks commited by non white persons and extremist ideologies in non white communities.



MrWayne said:
Torillian said:

Perhaps, or maybe they said Easter worshippers because the attack happened on Easter. I disagree with the idea that the term is more ambiguous because like you said the only people who would be worshipping in a church on Easter would be Christians.

We will never know what their real intent was but if they just used "Christian" nobody would have a problem with that and the far right wouldn't have the munition to produce a outrage.

I think many liberals and lefties are overly careful when it comes to terrorist attacks commited by non white persons and extremist ideologies in non white communities.

Perhaps, but if they're so smart why didn't they see this little far right outrage coming? In my mind the simpler explanation is they said what was technically accurate and then the internet being what it is someone found issue with it because (and this is admittedly my own form of inductive reasoning on motives) if there's one thing white Christian people love more than anything it's to feel like they're the ones being persecuted. 



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Torillian said:
MrWayne said:

We will never know what their real intent was but if they just used "Christian" nobody would have a problem with that and the far right wouldn't have the munition to produce a outrage.

I think many liberals and lefties are overly careful when it comes to terrorist attacks commited by non white persons and extremist ideologies in non white communities.

Perhaps, but if they're so smart why didn't they see this little far right outrage coming? In my mind the simpler explanation is they said what was technically accurate and then the internet being what it is someone found issue with it because (and this is admittedly my own form of inductive reasoning on motives) if there's one thing white Christian people love more than anything it's to feel like they're the ones being persecuted. 

maybe they see it coming but value it differently than I do. I agree with you that many people stylize themself as victims but it is also reality that Christians (mostly non white) are persecuted around the world and there are people in the western countries who have the same ideology, over 1000 german citizens joined the IS, imagine these people committing terrorist attacks in germany.