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Forums - Sales Discussion - Japan Sales week 4, January 21 - 27 , 2019

cycycychris said:
Nice to see Switch sales haven't slowed yet and a great launch for KH3. hopefully it gets a Switch port soon.

at 720p docked and 30fps with less effects sure. 



 

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Farsala said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

PS4 is in its 6th year, software has less impact on hardware late in the gen as we all know. 

It's not even 5 years old yet in Japan :P.

Rounding up to the nearest February lol



I wonder if KH3 will have better legs than FFXV had on PS4 in Japan, in terms of ratios (but also overall sales). Will the franchise lesser in popularity the same way FF did in Japan? Looking back at the old PS2 games, KH1 and KH2 have *very* similar sales in Japan despite the fact that worldwide KH2's sales were fairly different. Then again, the same could be said for the other Final Fantasy games on PS2, there's only a ~400k difference in Japan between the best selling version of FF on PS2 and the 2nd best selling version. FF kept 85% of it's sales in Japan when jumping from FFX to FFXII (it's worse if you are comparing to X-2), whereas Kingdom Hearts kept 92.6% of it's sales in Japan. Though, I don't know if those numbers are relevant now.



Fantastic numbers for KH3 performed better than I expected. I wonder how high were its digital sales.

Now let's hope it has decent legs, 1 million LT would be a dream.

PS4 sales almost identical to Switch. RE2 did well too.



animegaming said:

Great opening for Kingdom Hearts and Resident Evil, both are fantastic games from what I have played so far so well deserve to both Square and Capcom.

PS4 did better then I expect, but yikes it only beat the Switch by only a couple hundred units on the week its two biggest games of the year released, this will probably the be the best weak for the PS4 until the holidays and last it will top the Switch period.

In fairness the average price of those ps4 sold was well above that of the switch this week. The Switch is still the hot new hardware yet the ps4 in it's 6th year is desperately in need of a price cut. It's as simple as that. 



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Nate4Drake said:
Kai_Mao said:

Even with Kingdom Hearts III and Resident Evil 2 Remake this week?

Yes, even with KH III and RE2...and this is a very disturbing signal for Japan.

Switch, with KH III and RE2 would have sold much much more units; this is how Japan has sadly turned, let me explain better; These games should push more hardware, and the fact they are not boosting that much is because Japan do not care about home consoles, but only portable from Nintendo. This is not denigrating Nintendo Switch, of course, It's a note for Japan, and many of them are missing out on a fantastic gaming experience, and the situation seems irreversible.  It is not PS4 doing bad in Japan, it's Japan which seems to be so close minded and even capable of ignoring a very good console like XBox, because IT IS a good console.     This is only my thought and perception, so please respect it.

The thing is, Japanese people spend very little time at home compared to the West. So it's not useful for them to spend a lot of money in a home console and a nice TV with it (TVs seem very expensive here btw), when they have F2P games on their phone, which is even more useful for all those who spend 2 hours on a train everyday.

 

Japanese society isn't a good fit for home consoles, and they developed a "better" alternative. So yes, the home console market became significantly smaller. 



Faelco said:
Nate4Drake said:

Yes, even with KH III and RE2...and this is a very disturbing signal for Japan.

Switch, with KH III and RE2 would have sold much much more units; this is how Japan has sadly turned, let me explain better; These games should push more hardware, and the fact they are not boosting that much is because Japan do not care about home consoles, but only portable from Nintendo. This is not denigrating Nintendo Switch, of course, It's a note for Japan, and many of them are missing out on a fantastic gaming experience, and the situation seems irreversible.  It is not PS4 doing bad in Japan, it's Japan which seems to be so close minded and even capable of ignoring a very good console like XBox, because IT IS a good console.     This is only my thought and perception, so please respect it.

The thing is, Japanese people spend very little time at home compared to the West. So it's not useful for them to spend a lot of money in a home console and a nice TV with it (TVs seem very expensive here btw), when they have F2P games on their phone, which is even more useful for all those who spend 2 hours on a train everyday.

 

Japanese society isn't a good fit for home consoles, and they developed a "better" alternative. So yes, the home console market became significantly smaller. 

So would you say it's less of a "we dont like home consoles" and more of a "we dont have time for home consoles" situation?



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Nate4Drake said:
Kai_Mao said:

Even with Kingdom Hearts III and Resident Evil 2 Remake this week?

Yes, even with KH III and RE2...and this is a very disturbing signal for Japan.

Switch, with KH III and RE2 would have sold much much more units; this is how Japan has sadly turned, let me explain better; These games should push more hardware, and the fact they are not boosting that much is because Japan do not care about home consoles, but only portable from Nintendo. This is not denigrating Nintendo Switch, of course, It's a note for Japan, and many of them are missing out on a fantastic gaming experience, and the situation seems irreversible.  It is not PS4 doing bad in Japan, it's Japan which seems to be so close minded and even capable of ignoring a very good console like XBox, because IT IS a good console.     This is only my thought and perception, so please respect it.

That's fine. The PS4 situation in Japan is likely more of a cultural/socioeconomic situation than anything. Japan is different compared to the US, obviously, in that department and they tend to put their focus on different aspects of technology accordingly. The Switch is thriving thanks to the portability aspect of the console, plus the fact it has the type of games that keeps the momentum going even compared to the Vita, which had a pretty good life, despite losing to the 3DS by a significant margin, in Japan, all things considered.

But you could also say people in Europe are missing out on some of the best Nintendo games that they have developed in recent years as the Switch audience in Europe are still lagging behind compared to Japan and NA. Things just happen. There are a multitude of factors that affect a console's sales projections in a certain region.



no mario odyssey
but fit boxing instead.

30k less to smash get on splatoon, getting harder each week.



zorg1000 said:
Faelco said:

The thing is, Japanese people spend very little time at home compared to the West. So it's not useful for them to spend a lot of money in a home console and a nice TV with it (TVs seem very expensive here btw), when they have F2P games on their phone, which is even more useful for all those who spend 2 hours on a train everyday.

 

Japanese society isn't a good fit for home consoles, and they developed a "better" alternative. So yes, the home console market became significantly smaller. 

So would you say it's less of a "we dont like home consoles" and more of a "we dont have time for home consoles" situation?

Yup, busy work and school schedules (they only have Sunday's off for school in fact) along with public transportation like bus's and trains being a thriving industry in Japan, is how mobile and handhelds dominate over there. Hell apartments are pretty small in Japan to the point it might tough to set a entertainment center with a big TV and a home console.