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The whole brexit debacle is a complete shambles and a farce. Nigel Farage et al abandoned ship as soon as the result came out after all the propaganda that was spouted from their camp. The UK economy is up shit creek and the pound is at a 2 year low against the euro. At the very least a second referendum can ask the people do they really want to go through with brexit now that they have experienced the shit show of the last 2 years. The grass ain't always greener.

Last edited by TheFallen - on 15 December 2018

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contestgamer said:
Barozi said:

So would you ignore the will of the people to do another referendum?
It was well known that it would take at least 2 years, it was part of the contract, so you're wrong.

Doesnt make logical sense. You're ignoring the will of the people that voted no in order to hear the will of the people that want to vote again?

A vote was cast. Whether it takes 2 years of 5 doesn't matter. A decision was made. Millions of people voted that may now be dead, who died with a sense of satisfaction that they believed they left a better future for their kids and grand kids with their vote. You don't get to wait 2 years for people you dont like to die so you can get your way with a revote. You can have another referendum sometime in the future - I say it should be as many years away from today as this first referendum was from when the UK originally joined the EU for fairness. In the meantime a vote was cast and it should be enacted. 

They are dead and as you said they had their satisfaction when they died. They don't care what happens afterwards, they are dead.
I value the current will of people far more than the will of the people of the past. As should everyone. By your logic, the will of the people that voted in the 1975 referendum shouldn't be ignored as well since they also believed they left a better future for their kids and grand kids with their vote.

Also if the people (= more than 50%) want another referendum and an existing or completely new party picks up the idea, guess what will happen. Right, another referendum. It could be soon it could be in the far future, who knows but everything is possible.



Years have passed since the referendum, the young grew up and they're wiser now, they'll vote to leave, replacing those voters who died. See, I can pull stuff out of my ass too.

lol@"protests" presented as evidence. Usually losers threw tantrums, similar to the "not my president" tantrums. Why the hell would I go and counter-protest? No deal no problem!



The is no best way we're a medium economy with practically no significant resources we leave we're buggered no matter what the fact that the are still people who still believe it's great despite the chaos going on is mind boggling.



Barozi said:
contestgamer said:

Doesnt make logical sense. You're ignoring the will of the people that voted no in order to hear the will of the people that want to vote again?

A vote was cast. Whether it takes 2 years of 5 doesn't matter. A decision was made. Millions of people voted that may now be dead, who died with a sense of satisfaction that they believed they left a better future for their kids and grand kids with their vote. You don't get to wait 2 years for people you dont like to die so you can get your way with a revote. You can have another referendum sometime in the future - I say it should be as many years away from today as this first referendum was from when the UK originally joined the EU for fairness. In the meantime a vote was cast and it should be enacted. 

They are dead and as you said they had their satisfaction when they died. They don't care what happens afterwards, they are dead.
I value the current will of people far more than the will of the people of the past. As should everyone. By your logic, the will of the people that voted in the 1975 referendum shouldn't be ignored as well since they also believed they left a better future for their kids and grand kids with their vote.

Also if the people (= more than 50%) want another referendum and an existing or completely new party picks up the idea, guess what will happen. Right, another referendum. It could be soon it could be in the far future, who knows but everything is possible.


It wont happen. You lost, you got to learn to accept it. This is a one game finals, a not 7 game NBA series.



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Wyrdness said:
The is no best way we're a medium economy with practically no significant resources we leave we're buggered no matter what the fact that the are still people who still believe it's great despite the chaos going on is mind boggling.

Wrong wrong,Were the 5th largest economy in the world and the fact we've given our fishing industries away for all those land locked eu countries 



At the General Election Labour and Conservatives both stood on a manifesto commitment to leave the EU. The party that stood on a commitment to Remain was the Lib Dems, who were wiped out. Now backbench MPs from the two major parties want to take back the promise on which they were elected to have a second referendum (which, as we all know, is only advocated by people who want to remain). So the problem isn't what was decided by the referendum but what was decided by the General Election.

The reality is that we should never have had the first referendum: the subject was too complicated for most MPs, let alone most citizens, to understand. Remainers don't really care about the views of new voters, they just think that they will vote for Remain; your average 18 year old is certainly no more informed than your average 81 year old. But if they can stack the deck they will, so that a vote that split almost down the middle that went against them will split almost down the middle to their preference. But that solves far less than they think, because stopping Brexit is not the magic bullet.

It's a nightmare ... there's literally no solution.



contestgamer said:
Barozi said:

They are dead and as you said they had their satisfaction when they died. They don't care what happens afterwards, they are dead.
I value the current will of people far more than the will of the people of the past. As should everyone. By your logic, the will of the people that voted in the 1975 referendum shouldn't be ignored as well since they also believed they left a better future for their kids and grand kids with their vote.

Also if the people (= more than 50%) want another referendum and an existing or completely new party picks up the idea, guess what will happen. Right, another referendum. It could be soon it could be in the far future, who knows but everything is possible.


It wont happen. You lost, you got to learn to accept it. This is a one game finals, a not 7 game NBA series.

Why are you using american sports references? Immigrants are bad mmkay? Go back to america please



Bet Shiken that COD would outsell Battlefield in 2018. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8749702

First vote - conservatives got into power promising the UK a referendum on leaving the European Union. 

Second vote - Referendum - Leaving European Union won

Third vote - Theresa may called for a snap General election, conservatives won again to continue position on leaving the EU 

Waaaah waaah Waaaah, we want a people's Vote, it was the Russians, leave lied, its dam right childish

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OTBWY said:
A new referendum with everyone knowing the implications this time.



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