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Dark_Lord_2008 said:

I knew I had no chance at 16, I knew I was Autistic and that meant I had no chance at dating. It is hard enough for Normal people in dating world, try being an Autistic male and a social pariah that repels people. Can not read body language, can not detect changes in tone, avoids eye contact, so many things going on is distracting and visual and sensory overload. I look at the entire room and all the different things, objects, people, I keep looking at everything and try to take it all in and process it all, so distracting. There is the social awkwardness, social anxiety and fear that prevents me from getting the words out. The darn cat's got my tongue again! I know what they are thinking: this guy is a creep/weird and he is evil!

Yeah autistic here myself and i understand the social disliking but things like reading body language or detecting changes in tone can be much more improved when you try to focus on it, but ofcourse the stress from all the other incoming information can be the blockade to do that.

First of all you need to think about how you feel and only work on how to improve that and become more confident so stresslevels lower,shedule your day and relieve stress by sporting and also when you feel ready to have a date then go do some activity that sometimes lightens the social focus on you like going to the ZOO and when you feel more comfortable with that person you can go do something eye to eye.

But yeah first of all try to think about how to improve your mental selfimage and confidence and have peace with what you are before being too social.

I am the opposite than you on the body language part, i read it too well and i see too much in how people react that all that info is giving me stress too. :p

But take care dude, i do hope for some positivity in your life on the troubles you encounter regularly.

 

Ps: I did send you a friendrequest in case you would like to chat about the autism part of your troubles,you are not alone but people with autism just tend to isolate themselves so they sadly do not notice each other that much. :p

Last edited by Immersiveunreality - on 21 November 2018

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Dark_Lord_2008 said: 

An Australian mate of mine claims: "I am a medical doctor, I have millions of dollars, I own investment properties, I own a Porsche and wear European designer clothes but sill women never want me. I work hard and get nothing in return for all of my hard work. Life is not fair! I am forever alone 36 years old virgin, medical doctor!"

Work hard, get rich, not enough, never enough. Life is not fair! You work hard, you expect return on investment! Maybe I live in rubbish country and if I lived in any other country, my life would be different! Australia is far worse than America. Americans have it hard, go and live in Australia. Millionaires are leaving this country to look for women in foreign countries says it all. 

I didn't realize you were an Aussie.

In my experience, (and I realize this is a generalization so I apologize in advance) Australian women prioritize rugged, rough-and-tough, traditionally macho blokes over, say, a guy with a high-paying job. They want tradies and football players and the sort.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 21 November 2018

Where I live in Australia, is full of aggressive tradesmen guys into binge drinking, drugs, V8 cars, football and UFC/MMA. I am not into that stuff and I do not go to bars/clubs. I have missed out on not getting my teeth kicked in, my head knocked off by a random stranger or my face glassed in for no reason. I see on news all the time of random fat guys beating the life out of smaller guy for no reason all the time. The aggressive toxic male culture is rampant within society and is an issue in most countries around the world.



Well, I will agree with you on that, that toxic male culture is a huge problem here in Australia, mostly in that it encourages things like binge drinking, and the "boys don't cry or show weakness" BS that gives us such a high suicide rate for young men.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 22 November 2018

I've read all of your posts in here but I struggle to find any point you're trying to make. Is this just venting? It sounds to me that you have a very unhealthy fixation on what you think is "normal". That is what you should stop doing. Stop fixating on the ideals of broader society and start living your own life. You shouldn't blame the outside world for being who they are or who you are, there is nothing wrong with you. It's not healthy desperately trying to conform and then complain about how conform everyone is. Do your own thing for god's sake. Get some friends, get a cat, do what you love. It's really not that hard, I do it every day. You don't need friends, good looks or a girlfriend to be happy and as soon as you realize that, things will be fine.



If you demand respect or gratitude for your volunteer work, you're doing volunteering wrong.

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vivster said:

I've read all of your posts in here but I struggle to find any point you're trying to make. Is this just venting? It sounds to me that you have a very unhealthy fixation on what you think is "normal". That is what you should stop doing. Stop fixating on the ideals of broader society and start living your own life. You shouldn't blame the outside world for being who they are or who you are, there is nothing wrong with you. It's not healthy desperately trying to conform and then complain about how conform everyone is. Do your own thing for god's sake. Get some friends, get a cat, do what you love. It's really not that hard, I do it every day. You don't need friends, good looks or a girlfriend to be happy and as soon as you realize that, things will be fine.

Speak for yourself! Not everyone is happy being alone, source: me. It does seem like he's venting, but eh I say there's nothing with that, surely better than pretending everything is fine and dandy at least.



Lonely_Dolphin said:
vivster said:

I've read all of your posts in here but I struggle to find any point you're trying to make. Is this just venting? It sounds to me that you have a very unhealthy fixation on what you think is "normal". That is what you should stop doing. Stop fixating on the ideals of broader society and start living your own life. You shouldn't blame the outside world for being who they are or who you are, there is nothing wrong with you. It's not healthy desperately trying to conform and then complain about how conform everyone is. Do your own thing for god's sake. Get some friends, get a cat, do what you love. It's really not that hard, I do it every day. You don't need friends, good looks or a girlfriend to be happy and as soon as you realize that, things will be fine.

Speak for yourself! Not everyone is happy being alone, source: me. It does seem like he's venting, but eh I say there's nothing with that, surely better than pretending everything is fine and dandy at least.

Happiness comes from within. I know you can't just snip a finger and suddenly be happy but it seems that his misery is mainly caused by misconceptions. That's something he could work on.

I know of extroverts who would literally die if they couldn't share themselves with someone else regularly but he says he's an introvert, so he should be fine. I am a complete introvert and I get by fine just by talking to people over the internet. But I also couldn't live without that contact. I just concentrate on things that make me happy and plenty of those things do not involve other people.



If you demand respect or gratitude for your volunteer work, you're doing volunteering wrong.

Introvert with positive outlook on life and is a deep thinker can be attractive but it is hard for introverts to stand out from a world dominated by extroverts. Introvert with a negative, self-pitying, poor me attitude is no good. Medication and therapy can help with the low moods, low self esteem and confidence issues that plague Autistics. Autistics that open up and become more sociable instead of being socially withdrawn, weird, recluse. No one likes negative silent people that sit in the corner or the weird people that stare and never say a word like we see in the horror movies.



Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Introvert with positive outlook on life and is a deep thinker can be attractive but it is hard for introverts to stand out from a world dominated by extroverts. Introvert with a negative, self-pitying, poor me attitude is no good. Medication and therapy can help with the low moods, low self esteem and confidence issues that plague Autistics. Autistics that open up and become more sociable instead of being socially withdrawn, weird, recluse. No one likes negative silent people that sit in the corner or the weird people that stare and never say a word like we see in the horror movies.

Now you're labeling people again. Everything you're saying hits mostly extroverts but why would you care anyway? Why is it so important to you to appeal to people who you don't like anyway?



If you demand respect or gratitude for your volunteer work, you're doing volunteering wrong.

vivster said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Introvert with positive outlook on life and is a deep thinker can be attractive but it is hard for introverts to stand out from a world dominated by extroverts. Introvert with a negative, self-pitying, poor me attitude is no good. Medication and therapy can help with the low moods, low self esteem and confidence issues that plague Autistics. Autistics that open up and become more sociable instead of being socially withdrawn, weird, recluse. No one likes negative silent people that sit in the corner or the weird people that stare and never say a word like we see in the horror movies.

Now you're labeling people again. Everything you're saying hits mostly extroverts but why would you care anyway? Why is it so important to you to appeal to people who you don't like anyway?

Yeah that's the thing he needs to start with, bettering the view he has on himself instead of what he thinks others see him like and of course autism can be a big burden but he has to learn how to coexist with it in the easiest way and do not try to fight it too much.

Easier said than done but step by step people can get above these problems AND try to lighten the weight of the ones that will always remain.