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Fallout 76 Review Thread - Opencritic: 55, Metacritic 50

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LudicrousSpeed said:
Maybe people keep buying their games because

A) they’re amazing
B) the amount of jank and bugs and glitches is completely different from person to person

I’ve read nothing but horror stories about how buggy Skyrim was on PS3. I got the platinum and outside of a couple hard crashes early in the game, never had any bad issues. Same with Fallout 3. And New Vegas. And 4.

There’s no need to be confused or bitter that people buy their games despite the technical issues, the issues simply aren’t the same for everyone.

I'm not bitter, more amazed at how people can get scammed again and again by a developer who clearly doesn't care at all about the quality they give to their customers. And the customers keep asking for more and congratulating them... I played Oblivion for maybe 10 hours, found it boring and never had any more interest in their games, but it's still interesting to see how the market behaves around them. 

 

If EA or Ubisoft released something like Fallout 76, there would be an uproar and calls to boycott. But nope, it's Bethesda, so even "hard crash" is considered normal.... Impressive! I hope to work in a company like that some day, to not have to care about if the result of your work is actually working must be very comfy :D I kinda admire Todd for being able to sell stuff like this, when Blizzard gets killed online for a mobile game!

 

EDIT: I realize that it can seem bitter when you read my comment, but seriously, I'm only taking that as a running joke, just curious to see what will be the next step! I'm sure they can go further! :D

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Faelco said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Maybe people keep buying their games because

A) they’re amazing
B) the amount of jank and bugs and glitches is completely different from person to person

I’ve read nothing but horror stories about how buggy Skyrim was on PS3. I got the platinum and outside of a couple hard crashes early in the game, never had any bad issues. Same with Fallout 3. And New Vegas. And 4.

There’s no need to be confused or bitter that people buy their games despite the technical issues, the issues simply aren’t the same for everyone.

I'm not bitter, more amazed at how people can get scammed again and again by a developer who clearly doesn't care at all about the quality they give to their customers. And the customers keep asking for more and congratulating them... I played Oblivion for maybe 10 hours, found it boring and never had any more interest in their games, but it's still interesting to see how the market behaves around them. 

 

If EA or Ubisoft released something like Fallout 76, there would be an uproar and calls to boycott. But nope, it's Bethesda, so even "hard crash" is considered normal.... Impressive! I hope to work in a company like that some day, to not have to care about if the result of your work is actually working must be very comfy :D I kinda admire Todd for being able to sell stuff like this, when Blizzard gets killed online for a mobile game!

 

EDIT: I realize that it can seem bitter when you read my comment, but seriously, I'm only taking that as a running joke, just curious to see what will be the next step! I'm sure they can go further! :D

We are not getting scammed.  Most of us that like Bethesda games expect what we get.  You don't enjoy their games, we get it.  You don't have to look down on those of us who find their games some of the most worthwhile out there.  EU4 is just about the only game (besides everquest) that I've sunk more than Bethesda Fallout and Elder Scrolls games.  Even Final Fantasies get less hours by far than those games.



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So, I played about 6 hours of Fallout 76 just now, and I'm not sure what all the hate is about. The exploration that Bethesda is known for is still there, the graphics are a step above Fallout 4 while the art design is the prettiest in the series to date, the shooting mechanics seem to be a bit better than they were in Fallout 4, it doesn't feel overly grindy (up to level 8 already), the gear drops are fairly generous, it's not too difficult, the survival mechanics don't feel too overbearing, the music is great (among the best soundtracks I've heard this year), the base building is improved, the new enemies are cool. The only issue is that the storytelling isn't quite as good as 3, NV, and 4, since it exists mostly in the form of notes and audio logs, as opposed to coming from voiced NPC's, but storytelling has never really been Bethesda's strong suit anyway. Bethesda games have always been more about exploration than story, and the exploration aspect is as good as it ever was, you can just pick a direction from the start and explore to your heart's content just like earlier Fallout and Elder Scrolls games. I haven't even encountered a single bug yet, and that is something that has never happened to me before when playing a Bethesda game at launch. I'm more convinced than ever that people are just hating on it because it's multiplayer and not singleplayer. If you're not a fan of the game in it's current state then just wait, I'm sure they'll listen to the complaints and add proper questlines with voiced NPC's over time, a year or two from now it will probably be the best Fallout game ever.

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 17 November 2018

dharh said:
Faelco said:

I'm not bitter, more amazed at how people can get scammed again and again by a developer who clearly doesn't care at all about the quality they give to their customers. And the customers keep asking for more and congratulating them... I played Oblivion for maybe 10 hours, found it boring and never had any more interest in their games, but it's still interesting to see how the market behaves around them. 

 

If EA or Ubisoft released something like Fallout 76, there would be an uproar and calls to boycott. But nope, it's Bethesda, so even "hard crash" is considered normal.... Impressive! I hope to work in a company like that some day, to not have to care about if the result of your work is actually working must be very comfy :D I kinda admire Todd for being able to sell stuff like this, when Blizzard gets killed online for a mobile game!

 

EDIT: I realize that it can seem bitter when you read my comment, but seriously, I'm only taking that as a running joke, just curious to see what will be the next step! I'm sure they can go further! :D

We are not getting scammed.  Most of us that like Bethesda games expect what we get.  You don't enjoy their games, we get it.  You don't have to look down on those of us who find their games some of the most worthwhile out there.  EU4 is just about the only game (besides everquest) that I've sunk more than Bethesda Fallout and Elder Scrolls games.  Even Final Fantasies get less hours by far than those games.

It’s mostly Bethesda fans that are disappointed in the game, are they not? The problem is exactly that FO76 is missing all those things, that made Bethesda games great and let one look past the technical incompetence the games had.



Faelco said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Maybe people keep buying their games because

A) they’re amazing
B) the amount of jank and bugs and glitches is completely different from person to person

I’ve read nothing but horror stories about how buggy Skyrim was on PS3. I got the platinum and outside of a couple hard crashes early in the game, never had any bad issues. Same with Fallout 3. And New Vegas. And 4.

There’s no need to be confused or bitter that people buy their games despite the technical issues, the issues simply aren’t the same for everyone.

I'm not bitter, more amazed at how people can get scammed again and again by a developer who clearly doesn't care at all about the quality they give to their customers. And the customers keep asking for more and congratulating them... I played Oblivion for maybe 10 hours, found it boring and never had any more interest in their games, but it's still interesting to see how the market behaves around them. 

 

If EA or Ubisoft released something like Fallout 76, there would be an uproar and calls to boycott. But nope, it's Bethesda, so even "hard crash" is considered normal.... Impressive! I hope to work in a company like that some day, to not have to care about if the result of your work is actually working must be very comfy :D I kinda admire Todd for being able to sell stuff like this, when Blizzard gets killed online for a mobile game!

 

EDIT: I realize that it can seem bitter when you read my comment, but seriously, I'm only taking that as a running joke, just curious to see what will be the next step! I'm sure they can go further! :D

Getting great games you enjoy playing = getting scammed lol.

Try to give people a little more credit than that. If the experiences were a quarter as bad as you make it seem, people would have been out a long time ago.



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Errorist76 said:
dharh said:

We are not getting scammed.  Most of us that like Bethesda games expect what we get.  You don't enjoy their games, we get it.  You don't have to look down on those of us who find their games some of the most worthwhile out there.  EU4 is just about the only game (besides everquest) that I've sunk more than Bethesda Fallout and Elder Scrolls games.  Even Final Fantasies get less hours by far than those games.

It’s mostly Bethesda fans that are disappointed in the game, are they not? The problem is exactly that FO76 is missing all those things, that made Bethesda games great and let one look past the technical incompetence the games had.

Even Bethesda fans aren't immune from having the wrong expectations.  The ones I've talked to that aren't liking 76 were essentially expecting Fallout 5.  The problem is we weren't promised that, Fallout 76 is basically just Fallout 4 with multiplayer in west virginia.  Which is kinda what I expected.  

We aren't getting Fallout 5 until next gen.



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Not the Fallout I would have preferred but I'm still enjoying it. I'm at level 22 and I'd give it a 7/10.



Errorist76 said:
dharh said:

We are not getting scammed.  Most of us that like Bethesda games expect what we get.  You don't enjoy their games, we get it.  You don't have to look down on those of us who find their games some of the most worthwhile out there.  EU4 is just about the only game (besides everquest) that I've sunk more than Bethesda Fallout and Elder Scrolls games.  Even Final Fantasies get less hours by far than those games.

It’s mostly Bethesda fans that are disappointed in the game, are they not? The problem is exactly that FO76 is missing all those things, that made Bethesda games great and let one look past the technical incompetence the games had.

That's correct. I'm a huge Bethesda fan, and I just don't understand why they made this game. I was watching streams and it fell barren and soulless.

The silver lining is, this wake up call for them is done on this useless spinoff, not a mainline game.

The only way I get this is if they improve the game drastically after launch, No Mans Sky style.



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The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

Maybe that quote where they said "fallout 76 just wouldn't work on Switch" was a portion of the complete quote of.... "Fallout 76 wouldn't work on Switch, PS4 or X1 but we hope idiots will buy it anyway lol"

Everything I've seen of this is pretty depressing, especially when you can get fallout 4 on the ps4 for about a tenner right now.



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