I totally agree, Valdney shouldn't have been salty like that.

Indeed there was. I'm usually pretty good at remembering those sorts of things, so maybe it was a pretty limited pack-in. That certainly helps inflate your numbers though.

And multiple ps4 games will too. What's your point then?.

And even agreeing with you on MK games in general, that's not enough to deny Sony games are reaching Nintendo home console games sales. 

There's an arrogance related to Nintendo sales that I don't get it this gen...

Nobody is saying Sony has surpassed Nintendo in this regard. Just that is getting closer and closer nearing Nintendo levels this Gen. 

And if it is not true. Name me which home console Nintendo games have sold more than 10M since 2012 so we can compare the number to Sony ones as today. And then how many have sold 15M or more. Let's put facts over the table and see what happens. 

Not to be that guy but he did say in the last 20yrs on a Home console without pricecuts/bundles not only the Switch. Which very well MAY have multiple 15m sellers without pricecut we won't know until later on. But with Pokemon and Animal crossing I think those 2 are the ones that will potentially do it. But if either has a bundle then that will automatically throw that out the window smh.

Personally I can't see how people are not seeing Nintendo levels with everything listed especially Uncharted 4. Heck outside of the Wiisports/fit etc games and New Super Mario Bros Wii and Mario Kart Wii there were only like 2 Wii games on a 100 million plus user base that sold more than 10 million. So we can't really say "It's really to be expected on a near 100M+ base" Because that is just not the case.

I don't think ANYONE has disputed that the Switch software numbers are amazing. And the Salty comment came from some user saying that silly statement about not being at Nintendo levels because it was not done at full price which was just ridiculous. I also don't think anyone decided anything about how many 1st party 10 million plus sellers  would have just yet.

But I agree the console war talk is silly and definitely needs to stop but it is what makes things fun at the same time....a little FRIENDLY competition here and there but some folks just go over board man and it sucks smh.

Still barely at 3DS era Ninty levels which was a lower than usual point for Nintendo like PS3 for Sony. Never mind Switch which is only two years old with well less than half the install base is outpacing these sales numbers.

Don't get me wrong these numbers are great for Sony, obviously a leap from PS3 but as for the topic of the thread, they're not big enough to convince me anythings changed between the gap of Sony and Nintendo's 1st party sales numbers.

If anything it would be better to say the gap is increasing in Nintendo's favour since the Switch's release coming from the Wii U/3DS era. 1st party software performance has been insane in such a short time, it's already looking to outperform the DS especially with all software focused on one platform.

Not trolling or causing to derailed the thread. this is just an opinion

. Maybe thats due to lack of games or variety of them compared to what ps3 had. Ps3 had alot more first party games to choose from.

I have a ps4 and the last game i have played was gow game. It hant been played yst. The only first partu i havent tried yet is spiderlan which i am planning yo get when i buy ps4 pro. All my third party games goes to my xbox one x. What do u guys think?

Nah I disagree.....stating that Sony has reached Nin levels is indeed true. The Switch for Nintendo......much like the PS4 did for Sony just shot their 1st party sales even higher. And that is a Freaking great thing! Sony reached Nin level sales for every home console before the Switch including the MONSTER that was the Wii....outside of the Wiisports/fitness games of course which just sold absolute butt loads for whatever reason lol.

And I am not sure if the PS4 will have any 20m plus sellers but they will definitely have multiple 15m plus sellers when all is said and done just like Nin will along with the 10m plus sellers so not sure why you say Sony isn't going to touch that with their PS4 games when they already are outside of the 20m plus lol.

So no accomplishments were undone at all imo. Both just have some amazing 1st party sales! And the Switch just raised the bar for Nintendo! All good for both in my book!

I think you just like what you like and do things how you want to do them just like the rest of us lol. That's all there is to it!

Well including handhelds then no but looking at home consoles then there is no doubt about it.....and as I said to Rol the Switch has just raised the bar for Nin just like the PS4 did for Sony. But even then they are still not that far apart. Though the Switch will definitely beat out the PS4  with 1st party software sales which they should for obvious reasons of course.

What PS4 exclusive will/has reach 10 million at full price? The only one that has a chance is TLOU2. It was your question, so I'm not understanding what you mean by whats your point.

I agree that they are getting closer, but I disagree that they reached/enter Nintendo's level(as stated by the thread title). 

In terms of what has sold more than 15 or 10 million, it is weird to compare them for a system that is less than 2 and a half years old. At this point, ps4 didn't even get its first huge first party game in uncharted. Uncharted or TLOU might crawl to 20 million, but then we have switch games like MK8 or Smash that will reach even more than that. But good in their own regards, but not on equal footing. PS5 should solve that