KBG29 said:
potato_hamster said:
lol. So much nonsense you're doubling down on. It's precious, and so dramatic! But let's sort some things out.
We're moving towards unification, are we? Remember when we could only make phone calls on land-based telephones? Now we can make phone calls on land-based telephones, satellite phones, cellular phones, tablets, PCs, handheld game consoles, etc.Remember when you could only get Netflix on your PC? Now you can get it on PCs, tablets,smartphones, smart TVs, game consoles, handhelds, bluray players, cable boxes etc. Some technologies converge then, as the technology becomes arbitrary to implement, it diverges again. Besides, all you've proven is that people prefer to only have one device on the go. How many people care about how many devices are under their TV? I can't imagine there's too many people that wish their game console was also their TV receiver, but I don't doubt for one second that you wish that was a thing. How many people truly miss the DVD/blu-ray drives in laptops? How many people wish they had a TV receiver in their laptop? How many people wish they could just do away with TVs altogether and consume all media, including live TV on just their smartphone? Not many. HDMI ports are a dime a dozen. Power bars aren't that much more expensive. And let's look at what Apple, Google and MS are actually doing. Creating walled gardens. What else do you think Valve was up to with Steam OS and Steam Machines? The target audience was effectively nobody, but they wanted to take a shot at popularizing a walled garden where people would just keep adding games to their steam library instead of buying them off of all of their competitors that keep springing up. Apple wants to give you every reason possible to just buy Apple products. But, does Apple just want to you to just buy an iPhone? Fuck No! They want you buying iPads. They want you buying apple TVs. They want you buying macs, and they want you to do that so that you have every reason just to use the app store and the apple store to buy all of your music, tv shows, and movies, and be able to stream all that shit over all the other iDevices. But why doesn't apple make a TV? Because they'd have a really, really hard time selling a TV that accepted inputs from other devices. That just isn't the apple way! But let's be clear, Apple's solution isn't unification. That is an ecosystem that says "Don't fucking dare buy anything else".
Most consumers don't take too kindly with that shit. That's why google, while they're trying to put up their own walled garden, got a bit smart and licenced Android to pretty much anyone. That's why you can put windows on any PC you want. It's not because they don't want to be just as closed off as apple, it's because they want to cater to the large swaths of people who are not going to put up with that shit. So where does that leave console makers?
And you want Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo to go up against what apple is doing, except even more walled garden, instead of carving out their own little niches, their own market that requires a fuck load of time, money and effort, when Apple and Google are in much more lucrative markets. Can you see Apple or Google creating/buy 5-10 game studios to make exclusive games to sell on their iConsole/Google console? They don't even make games for iOS/Android. Sure they can buy exclusivity, but MS knows how wonderful that is to consumers. But no! Instead Sony needs to start making an OS that runs on everything from the PS5 to their smartphone to car stereos, and why not PCs? So should Nintendo. Even though MS, Google, and Apple aren't dumb enough to do that, that is Sony's and Nintendo's solution! To make devices they no longer or never made, and put bloated, unnecessary OSes on them so you can play God of War and Mario while driving.
Also, question on that free Fortnite game. How popular do you think it would be on iOS and Android if it cost $59.99? I bet you know the answer is that everyone would be laughing their asses off if Epic games tried to sell a mobile game for $59.99. How much do they sell Madden for? How about COD or Battlefield? Ohh. No, you're right.Not only is EA going to put the time and effort to porting the full version of Madden to iOS, they're going to give it away for free. Makes sense. That's why they just brought it to PC and Origin for $59.99, because they soon know that those people would rather not play on PC and would rather play on their smartphone.
You are out of your mind if you think 200 million console gamers are just going to roll over and accept a google or apple console, and touch controls as the only input as if such a device would just force Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft from selling game consoles. If people were that willing to flock to such solutions, they wouldn't have bought 130 million + PS4s/X1s/Switches. Google/Apple already offers that, so stop pretending that all paths lead that way. See, here's the part you fail to understand. Sony doesn't have to make anything other than a PS5 that is a beefed up PS4 that adapts modern technology and to trends to keep selling millions of consoles to gamers who want to play great games on TVs with gamepads. There is zero indication that market is dwindling in any way. That's why they've sold over 80 million PS4s in just 4.5 short years. Because millions of people *still* want to play games on TVs with gamepads. Those people aren't just going to start playing on smartphones just because they can get Madden on it.
So can you just quit the nonsense now? Thanks in advance.
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You know, people told me the same exact thing about how they would never give up their physical compass, or their dedicated navigation system, or their handheld for one of those iPhone things. That is why I used those examples. I could go on for pages on people I directly know and stories from friends and family, about how so and so said they would never own or never do (Insert Activity) on a smartphone. Now everyone I know has a smartphone, and where are those other devices? The Attic, the Basement, the landfill, one things for sure, they sure as shit arn't being used.
If you look back, PS4/XBO launched just after Smartphones really started to take off. When these two consoles launched I knew many people who did not have a smartphone. 5 years later, everyone of those people have a smartphone. When PS5 and XBO launch in 2019, 2020, or whenever, iOS and Android are going to be much stronger and more engrained than they where in 2013. Why do you think Google said to be making a strong push for gaming in the coming years? It ain't for shits and giggles. They want that royalty money that Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo are getting from 3rd party games. If they offer a box that is competitve with PS5/XB4/NSW or NSW2, and allow every single game to be played on that Box and you Android Phone, you don't think Android fans are going to make the jump from XB/PS/Nin to Android?
We arn't even talking touch controls here anymore. This would be a box with PS5/XB4 power, and a standard Bluetooth gamepad, which could also be tethered to your Android device. $59.99 and you can play your games on you Android Phone on the go, and in 4K/60 at home. You don't think that is a possability? You don't think Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo should be fully ready to counter this attack on their turf?
The writing is on the wall. If Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft fail to act, just like Sony and Nintendo did with the Handheld market, then consoles as we know them will die just as fast as Handhelds did. I will fight to the very end for all three of these companies, if they put up a fight, thanks to all of the amazing times they have delivered to me in the past 30 years. But, if they fail to put up a fight, and Google or Apple come out with a Handheld Form Factor Mobile device and a Home Console line, with a unified library, and they fail to match them, I am going to have to drop support for these companies. That comes from someone with a passion for these companies and their games. Most people I know couldn't care less whether they play on Xbox, PlayStation, Windows, Mac, Android, or iOS. Switching from their current home console to any other would be no issue whatsoever.
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