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Official Microsoft E3 2018 Thread- 5 new 1st Party Studious, Halo Infinite, Gears 5, Forza Horizon 4, and more

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Rate the Microsoft Conference

10 19 13.48%
 
9 26 18.44%
 
8 44 31.21%
 
7 28 19.86%
 
6 9 6.38%
 
5 7 4.96%
 
4 3 2.13%
 
3 2 1.42%
 
2 0 0.00%
 
1 3 2.13%
 
Total:141
Signalstar said:
Microsoft's conference looks even better in comparison to the abomination of Sony's show.

What was so bad about Sony's? yeah the musical stuff was bad and the intermission was pointless, but the games showed were almost all good or great and we got lengthy gameplay demonstrations. I thought it was a show of quality over quantity. 

I still think Microsoft's was marginally better, but only for the sheer volume of stuff on display. 



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For me, this E3 was the worst in recent memory. Maybe my expectations were too high but I think everybody besides Microsoft and Bethesda had better showings last year.

 

My personal ratings:

Microsoft: 9/10 - Conference setup and pace were close to perfect. We got a new Halo (even though that's probably a long way off), 3 Gears games and Forza Horizon 4. There were a lot of 3rd party games but I don't mind that when we're talking about games like Cyberpunk, Sekiro, Fallout 76, Metro Exodus, Tomb Raider, Devil May Cry 5, Dying Light 2 and Battlefield 5. Only thing missing was an exciting new IP or megaton revival like Perfect Dark or Fable.

Bethesda: 8/10 - Conference was held back by a dull rock concert and too many awkward pauses. Content was top notch though. Bethesda fans literally got everything. New chapters announced in Fallout, The Elder Scrolls, DOOM, Wolfenstein and Rage as well as an exciting new IP in Starfield. Better conference setup and more gameplay in general would've improved the rating.

Ubisoft: 7.5/10 - Conference was top notch but content was a little lacking. Maybe I'm just being spoiled but Ubisoft usually ends the conference by announcing either a big new IP or a megaton revival. I admire that they show so much gameplay but it mostly felt like updates for already announced or released games. If they hadn't leaked/shown The Division 2, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, The Crew 2 and Mario + Rabbids: Donkey Kong Adventures beforehand and had shown gameplay of Beyond Good & Evil 2, it would've been close to a 9/10 for me. With Splinter Cell or a big new IP on top would've made it a 10/10.

Sony: 7/10 - Conference was held back by weird setup and pace. They had the winning formula in 2015 and 2016 but for some reason decided to focus on very few games and unnecessary talks (without the actual developers). I really liked what I saw from TLOU2, Ghost, Spider-Man, Days Gone, Resident Evil 2, Control and Nioh 2 but what makes me primarily a PlayStation gamer is the variety of the (exclusive) library. Sony has so many varied games coming up but for some reason they only want to focus on their 3rd person action games. What about Spyro, MediEvil Remake, the secret Bluepoint game, Babylon's Fall, FF7 Remake, Shenmue 3, Yakuza 6, Ace Combat 7, Dead or Alive 6, GT Sport's Summer update, Concrete Genie, Blood and Truth, Déraciné, etc. If we had had less talk, more games and that 1 huge surprise (RE2 was already announced), the rating would've been better.

Nintendo: 5/10 - This could've been a Smash Bros. Direct. I liked the extensive look at Smash Bros. Ultimate. It really is shaping up to be the ultimate fighting game with a huge number of characters and details. With that said I'm somewhat disappointed that it's a port of Smash 4 with some extra content and updated graphics. Besides from Super Mario Party, we didn't really get anything new. If we'd seen anything from Pokémon 2019, Metroid Prime 4, Bayonetta 3, Shin Megami Tensei V, Yo-kai Watch 4, Good-Feel's new Yoshi game or Retro's new game, the rating would've easily been better.

Square Enix: 4/10 - My expectations were high for SE's conference because of their broad and varied library of both Japanese and Western games. I thought they would go all in and bring KH3, FF7 Remake, DQ XI, DQ Builders 2, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Just Cause 4, Life is Stange 2, The Avengers Project, Left Alive, and People Can Fly's AAA shooter but we only got 4 of those. Platinum's Babylon's Fall looked promising but it was the only new announcement. If they hadn't leaked/shown everything else beforehand, the rating would've been better.

EA: 3/10 - At this point, I don't even think EA is trying to cater to gamers. Their conferences feel like reruns with the same boring talk about this year's "revolutionary" sports titles. They sit on so many great IPs (rip C&C) and sometimes they even have the content to make an interesting show but.. they're just not capable of delivering. They're just a bunch of uncreative and investor-driven suits who invite indie developers in the hope of giving the show some kind of pulse and personality. As a huge fan of the Jedi Knight-series, I hope Respawn's Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order will be a worthy spiritual successor but I won't hold my breath. I know there are many fans of the sports titles and Battlefield, Anthem and the indie games could turn out worthwhile. Though in order to go higher than 3/10, EA would have to actually make an effort regarding the setup, pace and content of the conference.



Alara317 said:
Signalstar said:
Microsoft's conference looks even better in comparison to the abomination of Sony's show.

What was so bad about Sony's? yeah the musical stuff was bad and the intermission was pointless, but the games showed were almost all good or great and we got lengthy gameplay demonstrations. I thought it was a show of quality over quantity. 

I still think Microsoft's was marginally better, but only for the sheer volume of stuff on display. 

You have to be kidding me!?

They did announce 3 games. THREE. ONLY THREE. Two of those were multiplats as well.

just compare the announcements / premieres shown at this E3.

 

For Microsoft:

Exclusives announced:
1. Halo Infinite
2. Forza Horizon
3. Session
4. Tunic
5. Battletoads
6. Gears of War 5

Multiplats announced:
1. Sekiro
2. Life is Strange: Captain Spirit
3. Tales of Vesperia Remaster
4. The Division 2
5. Devil May Cry 5
6. Jump Force
7. Dying Light 2
8. Just Cause 4
9. Cyberpunk2077

Goodies:
• The Division, Fallout, Skyrim, Halo MCC, Ashen on Game Pass
• Sea of Thieves DLC
• 5 New First Party studios announced
• PUBG DLC
• Bunch of Indies in a montage
• Cuphead DLC
• Gears of War Pop
• Gears of War Tactics
• Streaming Service in development
• Next Xbox is being architected



For Sony:

Exclusives announced:
1. Nioh 2

Multiplats announced:
1. Resident Evil 2
2. Control

Goodies:

• Déraciné (PSVR)



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DirtyP2002 said:
Alara317 said:

What was so bad about Sony's? yeah the musical stuff was bad and the intermission was pointless, but the games showed were almost all good or great and we got lengthy gameplay demonstrations. I thought it was a show of quality over quantity. 

I still think Microsoft's was marginally better, but only for the sheer volume of stuff on display. 

You have to be kidding me!?

They did announce 3 games. THREE. ONLY THREE. Two of those were multiplats as well.

just compare the announcements / premieres shown at this E3.

 

For Microsoft:

Exclusives announced:
1. Halo Infinite
2. Forza Horizon
3. Session
4. Tunic
5. Battletoads
6. Gears of War 5

Multiplats announced:
1. Sekiro
2. Life is Strange: Captain Spirit
3. Tales of Vesperia Remaster
4. The Division 2
5. Devil May Cry 5
6. Jump Force
7. Dying Light 2
8. Just Cause 4
9. Cyberpunk2077

Goodies:
• The Division, Fallout, Skyrim, Halo MCC, Ashen on Game Pass
• Sea of Thieves DLC
• 5 New First Party studios announced
• PUBG DLC
• Bunch of Indies in a montage
• Cuphead DLC
• Gears of War Pop
• Gears of War Tactics
• Streaming Service in development
• Next Xbox is being architected



For Sony:

Exclusives announced:
1. Nioh 2

Multiplats announced:
1. Resident Evil 2
2. Control

Goodies:

• Déraciné (PSVR)

More gameplay for Spiderman, with 4 new villains reveal

Death Stranding Gameplay

Ghost of Tsushima Gameplay

Last of Us 2 gameplay

fixed.

However, you point still stands.

MS showed 50 games, while Sony only showed 9 (if we count that PSVR game, which shouldn't count if you ask me). Microsoft took it by a landslide.



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Alara317 said:
Signalstar said:
Microsoft's conference looks even better in comparison to the abomination of Sony's show.

What was so bad about Sony's? yeah the musical stuff was bad and the intermission was pointless, but the games showed were almost all good or great and we got lengthy gameplay demonstrations. I thought it was a show of quality over quantity. 

I still think Microsoft's was marginally better, but only for the sheer volume of stuff on display. 

Does that mean you think the games at Microsoft weren't quality games?



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flashfire926 said:
DirtyP2002 said:

You have to be kidding me!?

They did announce 3 games. THREE. ONLY THREE. Two of those were multiplats as well.

just compare the announcements / premieres shown at this E3.

 

For Microsoft:

Exclusives announced:
1. Halo Infinite
2. Forza Horizon
3. Session
4. Tunic
5. Battletoads
6. Gears of War 5

Multiplats announced:
1. Sekiro
2. Life is Strange: Captain Spirit
3. Tales of Vesperia Remaster
4. The Division 2
5. Devil May Cry 5
6. Jump Force
7. Dying Light 2
8. Just Cause 4
9. Cyberpunk2077

Goodies:
• The Division, Fallout, Skyrim, Halo MCC, Ashen on Game Pass
• Sea of Thieves DLC
• 5 New First Party studios announced
• PUBG DLC
• Bunch of Indies in a montage
• Cuphead DLC
• Gears of War Pop
• Gears of War Tactics
• Streaming Service in development
• Next Xbox is being architected



For Sony:

Exclusives announced:
1. Nioh 2

Multiplats announced:
1. Resident Evil 2
2. Control

Goodies:

• Déraciné (PSVR)

More gameplay for Spiderman, with 4 new villains reveal

Death Stranding Gameplay

Ghost of Tsushima Gameplay

Last of Us 2 gameplay

fixed.

However, you point still stands.

MS showed 50 games, while Sony only showed 9 (if we count that PSVR game, which shouldn't count if you ask me). Microsoft took it by a landslide.

gameplay =/= announcements.

If so, you can also add Ori and Crackdown as exclusives on MS list + Battlefield, Tomb Raider and Nier: Automata for multiplats.



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DirtyP2002 said:
flashfire926 said:

fixed.

However, you point still stands.

MS showed 50 games, while Sony only showed 9 (if we count that PSVR game, which shouldn't count if you ask me). Microsoft took it by a landslide.

gameplay =/= announcements.

If so, you can also add Ori and Crackdown as exclusives on MS list + Battlefield, Tomb Raider and Nier: Automata for multiplats.

fair enough.



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flashfire926 said:
Alara317 said:

What was so bad about Sony's? yeah the musical stuff was bad and the intermission was pointless, but the games showed were almost all good or great and we got lengthy gameplay demonstrations. I thought it was a show of quality over quantity. 

I still think Microsoft's was marginally better, but only for the sheer volume of stuff on display. 

Does that mean you think the games at Microsoft weren't quality games?

Not on the same level as what Sony showed. 

Guaranteed nothing Microsoft showed comes close to The Last of Us Part II, Ghost of Tsushima, Death Stranding, or Spider-Man. All of those have potential to be game of the year contenders, and the only franchise that Microsoft has that hovers around the 90 metacritic level is Forza Horizon (And to a lesser extend, ORi and the Will of the Wisps, but that's an indie title download, it will be outstanding but don't pretend it's gonna be a system seller.) Furthermore, Sony showed extensive gameplay of three of those games (Death Stranding is still a mystery, but Hideo Kojima hasn't ever let us down), vs 'here's a thing that exists sometime in the future' like with Halo and Gears. Forza was really the only one that showed gameplay, looked great, and was coming out very soon. 

Halo and Gears' last outings were okay but not great. 

Crackdown looks pretty bad, if I'm being honest. 

And most of the other stuff was indies or multiplats. Sure some of the stuff I'm SUPER excited to play...on PS4. yeah, I still think that overall Microsoft's presentation was better, but it did very little to make me care about my oft-neglected Xbox One. I'll be getting Ori 2 on PC, and the 'holy trinity' of Xbox pillars (Gears, Halo, Forza) all looked good but not great. Maybe 8/10s. 

Could I be wrong? sure. I'd be happy to see me be wrong, but when you're comparing quality vs quantity, Sony had it with their quality. 

So yeah, I definitely think that sony's games were better quality. Oh, and two of those four were new IPs, where are Microsoft's new IPs? This stuff matters in the long run. 



Alara317 said:
flashfire926 said:

Does that mean you think the games at Microsoft weren't quality games?

Not on the same level as what Sony showed. 

Guaranteed nothing Microsoft showed comes close to The Last of Us Part II, Ghost of Tsushima, Death Stranding, or Spider-Man. All of those have potential to be game of the year contenders, and the only franchise that Microsoft has that hovers around the 90 metacritic level is Forza Horizon (And to a lesser extend, ORi and the Will of the Wisps, but that's an indie title download, it will be outstanding but don't pretend it's gonna be a system seller.) Furthermore, Sony showed extensive gameplay of three of those games (Death Stranding is still a mystery, but Hideo Kojima hasn't ever let us down), vs 'here's a thing that exists sometime in the future' like with Halo and Gears. Forza was really the only one that showed gameplay, looked great, and was coming out very soon. 

Halo and Gears' last outings were okay but not great. 

Crackdown looks pretty bad, if I'm being honest. 

And most of the other stuff was indies or multiplats. Sure some of the stuff I'm SUPER excited to play...on PS4. yeah, I still think that overall Microsoft's presentation was better, but it did very little to make me care about my oft-neglected Xbox One. I'll be getting Ori 2 on PC, and the 'holy trinity' of Xbox pillars (Gears, Halo, Forza) all looked good but not great. Maybe 8/10s. 

Could I be wrong? sure. I'd be happy to see me be wrong, but when you're comparing quality vs quantity, Sony had it with their quality. 

So yeah, I definitely think that sony's games were better quality. Oh, and two of those four were new IPs, where are Microsoft's new IPs? This stuff matters in the long run. 

I thought you were talking about the whole show, not just exclusives. Should've specified. In that case, I have to agree. Even though the MS exclusives are more up my alley, I can't deny that Sony will have more quality in their first party titles.

As a side note, Gears 5 did show gameplay, and it looked great, imo.



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potato_hamster said:
Dulfite said:

Ugh, but Steam Link man! 

It sucks for you and the 12 other people that are still using it. I have one and I used it twice. What as waste of $14.

I got mine for $4 on some crazy sale lol. Why do you assume not many use it? Is there a better alternative?

I have desktop upstairs (next to my main internet router) and have the steam link connected to my basement projector. It has (I'd say) 98% no lag, and almost entirely plays perfectly. Microsoft doesn't have an option for windows 10 gaming streamings to other tvs in the house do they?