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HomokHarcos said:
DonFerrari said:

Still in decades it didn't need to change to keep relevance.

The characters have changed. Bruce Wayne has had different characterizations and the Lara Croft of the recent reboot is different than the earlier versions.

Sorry, but you're just being stupid.

 

My rant has to do with changing race, sex, and sexual orientation needlessly in popular characters. Did you read? If you didn't, GTFO.

 

Bruce Wayne and Lara Croft are the same people. White. Ever since they started. They might change Minor details that weren't fully explained before, but how can they possibly change skin color or gender? That's just stupid. And they don't have to just to stay relevant. They've been freaking straight white for years and they will never have to change.

User was banned for this post ~ Pemalite

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VGPolyglot said:
DonFerrari said:

Small archs, alternative storylines and other minor deviations hardly sustain as evidence.

This is like saying the Speaker of the House of the Representatives is the president because in some situations with President and Vice-President unavailable he have "the power". Should we also hang his picture on the white house and number him as one president? I'm sure if we were to consider all the ones that temporarily assumed the president position the walls would be unseen due to so many presidential pictures.

Did the Speakers of the House ever call themselves the President? If not, your comparison is invalid.

They were acting President.

In Brazil just last month the President was travelling, we don't have a Vice because the Vice became president after impeachment. And due to elections being this year if the president of the congress or senate assumed the role of president even for a day they wouldn't be able to be elected on the positions they wanted. So both also traveled. So for like 3 days our supreme court president have been the president in charge. Didn't need to call herself President, but she was.

But if calling one self President is what you need, them we have a lot of Napoleons out there.

bugrimmar said:
HomokHarcos said:

The characters have changed. Bruce Wayne has had different characterizations and the Lara Croft of the recent reboot is different than the earlier versions.

Sorry, but you're just being stupid.

 

My rant has to do with changing race, sex, and sexual orientation needlessly in popular characters. Did you read? If you didn't, GTFO.

 

Bruce Wayne and Lara Croft are the same people. White. Ever since they started. They might change Minor details that weren't fully explained before, but how can they possibly change skin color or gender? That's just stupid. And they don't have to just to stay relevant. They've been freaking straight white for years and they will never have to change.

User was banned for this post ~ Pemalite

Would like to see the people that attacked OP also banned. Several attacks and name calling that got no warning.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

DonFerrari said:

ld like to see the people that attacked OP also banned. Several attacks and name calling that got no warning

Oh no don't worry, I don't mind being banned for stating hard truths that people don't like to hear or read. It's not easy for people to accept it.



bugrimmar said:
DonFerrari said:

ld like to see the people that attacked OP also banned. Several attacks and name calling that got no warning

Oh no don't worry, I don't mind being banned for stating hard truths that people don't like to hear or read. It's not easy for people to accept it.

Even though your comment was directed toward me I did not agree with that ban.



bugrimmar said:
RuiOrey said:

The first software developer was Ada Lovelace -> a woman.

My boss is a structural engineer woman. I had good bosses guys and good bosses women and bad bosses women and bad bosses man.

There are guys I know that would not work for a woman. I don't give a shit. They are equal for me in terms of jobs capabilities and accountability.

 lI could not care less of a crap if women are all around in media.

Is different at minimum. Difference stimulates creativity.

Move on with your life.

Don't be afraid and complaining of losing you masculine identity all the time and crying about women taking on the media movies game whatever you play on your ass seated down.

That is not manly. That is childish.

Maybe you didn't read what I posted properly. I said, if you want to make a female, gay, transgender, black, asian, whatever character, MAKE A NEW ONE. DON'T CHANGE EXISTING ONES JUST FOR YOUR STUPID SOCIAL JUSTICE AGENDA.

Why not? For me is the same man... i dont give a damn..
Chill ma man..jesus...

Only new games are allowed?
Old games cannot change the sex of the main protagonist?

So you paid for a man, you want a man all the way.. is that it?





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RuiOrey said:
bugrimmar said:

Maybe you didn't read what I posted properly. I said, if you want to make a female, gay, transgender, black, asian, whatever character, MAKE A NEW ONE. DON'T CHANGE EXISTING ONES JUST FOR YOUR STUPID SOCIAL JUSTICE AGENDA.

Why not? For me is the same man... i dont give a damn..
Chill ma man..jesus...

Only new games are allowed?
Old games cannot change the sex of the main protagonist?

So you paid for a man, you want a man all the way.. is that it?

If you paid for a hooker, would you like that in the middle it became a man?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

DonFerrari said:
RuiOrey said:

Why not? For me is the same man... i dont give a damn..
Chill ma man..jesus...

Only new games are allowed?
Old games cannot change the sex of the main protagonist?

So you paid for a man, you want a man all the way.. is that it?

If you paid for a hooker, would you like that in the middle it became a man?

Well so you see the character from the game as an hooker with whom you have sexual feelings and experiences...
Ok I don't see it as a sexual experience.
But we are friends the same..



RuiOrey said:
DonFerrari said:

If you paid for a hooker, would you like that in the middle it became a man?

Well so you see the character from the game as an hooker with whom you have sexual feelings and experiences...
Ok I don't see it as a sexual experience.
But we are friends the same..

Concept is the same on your provocative question.

He paid for one experience, it was changed, he doesn't like. It seems like you wouldn't as well.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

It's very easy for people who have benefitted from the lack of diversity to complain once women and people of color start getting the same opportunities they have. All people are asking for is that they get the same opportunities in film and entertainment that mostly white men have with their connections. Unfortunately it seems to bother some people.



43 pages in and I've yet to see a single piece of evidence that Star Wars, Ghost Buster's, etc were changed.  

 

Star Wars is a new trilogy with new characters.  The existence of non "white male" characters is not proof of forced diversity.  

 

GhoatBusters after a long time rebooted the franchise and someone decided to make the choice to cast all women.  It's a fun idea to basically gender swap the original.  

 

Pretty much all the complaints that I've even seen about these two movies have nothing to do with them being women and are instead complaints about the writing and acting. Which have nothing to do with the characters themselves.  

Here's an actual example of attempting forced diversity with actual documentation: 

 

http://gameranx.com/features/id/15593/article/5-reasons-why-link-should-be-a-woman/