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Meh. It looks like more of that american low-quality shit. Why can't they just stop being so lazy and try to make cartoons that look decent...



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konnichiwa said:
Arminillo said:
They brought it back in 2011 and noone cared. At least now it will be popular again



Man, that guy got roasted :P

And that 2011 reboot does look kickass.  This new one looks pathetic, desperate, and just...sad.



Nuvendil said:
konnichiwa said:



Man, that guy got roasted :P

And that 2011 reboot does look kickass.  This new one looks pathetic, desperate, and just...sad.

I mean they wouldnt have cancelled it even if they got this cheap LEGO knockoff if it had good ratings. They might not have been terrible but in no way were the ratings good if they still got it totally removed.

 

EDIT: The biggest thing was apprantly the toys being absolute shit and not selling any because of how low quality they were. 

Last edited by Mcube - on 22 May 2018

Mcube said:
Nuvendil said:

Man, that guy got roasted :P

And that 2011 reboot does look kickass.  This new one looks pathetic, desperate, and just...sad.

I mean they wouldnt have cancelled it even if they got this cheap LEGO knockoff if it had good ratings. They might not have been terrible but in no way were the ratings good if they still got it totally removed. 

Yet they were good enough to warrant funding a lot of intial development.  Which means the ratings were still plenty good enough to continue if these empty suits at the top had any confidence in the creative people behind these shows or any ambition beyond churning out near identical, homogenized crap with various brands slapped on.



Nuvendil said:
Mcube said:

I mean they wouldnt have cancelled it even if they got this cheap LEGO knockoff if it had good ratings. They might not have been terrible but in no way were the ratings good if they still got it totally removed. 

Yet they were good enough to warrant funding a lot of intial development.  Which means the ratings were still plenty good enough to continue if these empty suits at the top had any confidence in the creative people behind these shows or any ambition beyond churning out near identical, homogenized crap with various brands slapped on.

Started researching a bit and it seems like the thing that killed it most were the shitty toys. Apparantly they were horribly low quality and noone bought them. And still LEGO makes a ton of money if they had to move one show to make room for the LEGO TV show then that one was obviously the one that did the worst. Im not taking a dig at the writers or creators here they made a really good show from what I hear it not getting ratings because of multiple reasons (Mostly time slot movements) they just got fucked by CN themselves before they got removed because of the other show. All in all it sucks that we went from something amazing in 2011 to this hot garbage. 



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Mcube said:
Nuvendil said:

Man, that guy got roasted :P

And that 2011 reboot does look kickass.  This new one looks pathetic, desperate, and just...sad.

I mean they wouldnt have cancelled it even if they got this cheap LEGO knockoff if it had good ratings. They might not have been terrible but in no way were the ratings good if they still got it totally removed.

 

EDIT: The biggest thing was apprantly the toys being absolute shit and not selling any because of how low quality they were. 

You seem to be ignorant to how Cartoon Network works. The Thundercats  2011 reboot suffered the same fate as Young Justice. The ratings were good but it didn't sell toys. This happened to several quality shows on Cartoon Network. 



Darc Requiem said:
Mcube said:

I mean they wouldnt have cancelled it even if they got this cheap LEGO knockoff if it had good ratings. They might not have been terrible but in no way were the ratings good if they still got it totally removed.

 

EDIT: The biggest thing was apprantly the toys being absolute shit and not selling any because of how low quality they were. 

You seem to be ignorant to how Cartoon Network works. The Thundercats  2011 reboot suffered the same fate as Young Justice. The ratings were good but it didn't sell toys. This happened to several quality shows on Cartoon Network. 

Yes I understand that but if the show had amazing ratings it would have sold more toys. It all starts with people actually viewing the thing. Children dont want toys of something they have never seen before.  Also I already edited the message before you replied about what mainly killed it. The toys being shit quality and because of that noone wanting to buy em. 



Been a lot of heated discussion on this third Thundercats show online. Let me preface that I enjoyed the original Thundercats a lot growing up, I'd sit with my cheap Thundercats TV tray holding a bowl of cereal and watch every week as it ran in syndication long after its original run. The show went dormant for a long time and then there was the 2011 reboot which I liked a lot, but it got canceled because of budget issues.

When I saw the 2019 trailer nothing about it appealed to me. The animation look lazy and the tone seems to be shifting young, thinking under 7 crowd. The character designs are off putting and it all gives me the sense of a goofy spin off than a true series.

Talking points I've run into.

"It's not for you!" - Yes, it clearly wasn't made with me in mind. Me being the person that has affection for the characters and series. My reply is are you surprised when taking an existing property that fans compare it to what they loved and express why this doesn't measure up. I think telling large parts of potential audience to go away is just bad marketing. The next question is who is this for? I'm guessing very young children who have no attachment or knowledge of these characters, so why not make a new show in this tone and style? Ultimately time will tell, but I don't see how this stands out among other cartoons right now.

"You care about a kid's cartoon? Grow up!" - I care in the sense that I did watch it and got emotionally invested. I don't care in the sense it takes over my life. It doesn't take much effort to discuss a show. It also does bother me a bit how animation in the US is consistently downplayed as less serious because of the medium.

"You didn't support the old versions" - I did, but if there isn't a market I have to question why try again. My guess is people did support it, but it is a safer bet to crank out cheap animation and get X to watch than quality animation that requires 5X to watch.

Will I watch the 2019 version? No, I may see a clip or two online, but too many shows to be bothered by an unappealing reboot. Maybe there will be another Thundercats "for me" in 2028.



Darc Requiem said:

I found comparison images for the Original and 2011 series.

 

 

 

 

I remember playing with a broom pretending to be Cheetara.  The redesign in 2011 was amazing.



Mcube said:
Darc Requiem said:

You seem to be ignorant to how Cartoon Network works. The Thundercats  2011 reboot suffered the same fate as Young Justice. The ratings were good but it didn't sell toys. This happened to several quality shows on Cartoon Network. 

Yes I understand that but if the show had amazing ratings it would have sold more toys. It all starts with people actually viewing the thing. Children dont want toys of something they have never seen before.  Also I already edited the message before you replied about what mainly killed it. The toys being shit quality and because of that noone wanting to buy em. 

They wont ever get it. Theres a reason why TTGo is more popular now than Teen Titans was, and it will likely be the same for this new thundercats



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