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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 5 May 2018

ArchangelMadzz said:
Can we now say the XBX didn't improve sales?

No matter how low the sales look, they're still better than last year. Week ending may 6th 2017 the XBO sold 63k. And we know that Q1 sales were up 15% compared to last year.

Whether these sales are attributable to the XBO X, lower price or any other factors is up for debate. But I'd say it's wrong to say that the X didn't improve sales at all.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
Can we now say the XBX didn't improve sales?

According to Matt(NPD guy) The One X is playing a part in the XBO being up YoY so it's helping boost sales. 



Another great week for Nintendo and Sony. As for MS, while they are still up YoY they need to step up to compete with the other two. I think the problem here is that all their first party games are poorly received compared to their rivals offerings. You can’t sell a console to a wide audience when almost everything you offer is 70 meta games. They need to rethink about what they fund with their resources and step up in terms of quality assurance.



 

jason1637 said:
ArchangelMadzz said:
Can we now say the XBX didn't improve sales?

According to Matt(NPD guy) The One X is playing a part in the XBO being up YoY so it's helping boost sales. 

Then it is kinda bad. Especially considering the fact that most of one x consoles sold are upgrades from the old revisions



 

People discussing the impact of GOW on PS4 sales just remember it isn't abnormal for VGC numbers to forget about new releases.



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
JRPGfan said:

Have they lowered it below 249? because its been that price all year basically.
If not, I dont see why it would go up next weeks.

249$ with game, 229$ standalone unit; before those prices where 299$ and 259$, so a 50$ and 30$ pricecut respectively

I remember seeing 249$ and 229$ before this year.... so its not the first time this year, but yeah that could give it a minor boost.
I call saying its crazy theres a 70$ price differnce between Xbox One and PS4 before, back then it didnt have much effect though.

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zorg1000 said:

It was comfortably up YOY in the first quarter according to NPD, they are probably just assuming the trend will continue.

Personally i dont think the YOY increase will last much longer. The combination of the momentum from X model & PUBG releasing over the holidays, nationwide discounts in Feb & Sea of Thieves in March caused it to have a solid increase in Q1 but i dont really see anything that will cause that momentum to continue into the Spring/Summer.

WWell thats true, and being up YOY is definately better than being down. My thing against it though is that looking at it being up YOY is just a really nice way to not look at how badly it still doing compared o everyone else. 

It makes for really embarrassing analysis "The XB1 is doing X% betetr YOY and having the best year so far in XB1 history, but its still being outsold 3:1 by the PS4, and the Switch."

Kerotan said:
Another win for the ps4. 2018 has been its year so far both hardware and software.

Yup, but its still down YOY, if it keeps this trend through out the year it will be behind YOY by about 1M - 1.3M when its all said and done. Although that means it still has a 19M+ year, it also means that we have the first real evidence of the PS4 having hit its decline.

A price drop to $199 by sony will destroy everything i just said though, so there is still that.

 



PS4 is already ubiquitous and NSW has still Smash and Pokemon on it's lineup. I guess we can say that NSW has everything to take the #1 in the next 12 months.

Sony rolling out PS5 before 2020 doesn't look so bonkers now.



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JRPGfan said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

249$ with game, 229$ standalone unit; before those prices where 299$ and 259$, so a 50$ and 30$ pricecut respectively

I remember seeing 249$ and 229$ before this year.... so its not the first time this year, but yeah that could give it a minor boost.
I call saying its crazy theres a 70$ price differnce between Xbox One and PS4 before, back then it didnt have much effect though.

Yeah, it's not the first time this year, hence why I said yet again. At this rate they can just keep the price at that and call it a day

Intrinsic said: 

Kerotan said: 
Another win for the ps4. 2018 has been its year so far both hardware and software.

Yup, but its still down YOY, if it keeps this trend through out the year it will be behind YOY by about 1M - 1.3M when its all said and done. Although that means it still has a 19M+ year, it also means that we have the first real evidence of the PS4 having hit its decline.

A price drop to $199 by sony will destroy everything i just said though, so there is still that.

199$ is too much of a pricecut yet, but getting down to 249 could be possible if sales drop down too much for Sony's liking. After all, they are already expecting slightly slower sales, so if the projections would start looking like they can't reach that number either at some future point, I'm sure that's what they would do.

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Its interesting to see that low X1 numbers, while the console is pushed out with very strong bundles here in Germany. (X1 Slim + 5 Games for 250€ last week). Would have thought it could have some impact, but it seems to not boost sales.