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Nautilus on 12 April 2018
Intrinsic said:
BraLoD said:

Nioh and Bloodborne are mediocre in most aspects?

Damn boy, don't go that way xP

But its true.... nioh in particular looked like a PS3 game  half the time, bloodborne basicsally had zero antialiasing. Nioh had forgetable music. Bloodborne had a forgetable story, hell I'm sure most people can't even make heads or tails of its story.

I love BB, but like with most games I play I call it for what it is. I won't let my love for said game make me blind to everything thats wrong with the game. 

Depending on who you talk to, a game thats a 100% in one aspect then 50% everywjere else can still be considered the best game of ever made. I would rather take a game that is 75% across the board. 

Eg look at the order, another one trick pony that unfortunately was only really great where it mattered the least. Its looks. 

I will give you this:Bloodborne story is beyond horrible.That storytelling, which is unfortunelly by design, is simply a crime in my opinion.Actually, all Souls- like game developed by From has a horrifiyng bad narrative.But thats about the only negative of the game.Level design, gameplay, music, they are all great.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

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VGPolyglot on 12 April 2018
Nautilus said:
VGPolyglot said:

I thought Gamespot used half points? However, unlike IGN GS doesn't have .1 increments.

Never seen a half point in a gamespot review personally.Could be wrong though.

Hmm, I guess they changed it. They used to have .5 (and actually .1 before that), but now it seems they only do whole numbers:

https://www.gamespot.com/help/



Nautilus on 12 April 2018
VGPolyglot said:
Nautilus said:

Never seen a half point in a gamespot review personally.Could be wrong though.

Hmm, I guess they changed it. They used to have .5 (and actually .1 before that), but now it seems they only do whole numbers:

https://www.gamespot.com/help/

Oh thanks for finding a definitive answer.Personally I believe that not using a more precise score is a bad decision, since it gives a less precise conclusion of your enjoyment of the game, but to each its own



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Intrinsic on 12 April 2018
John2290 said:

Huh? Every aspect of Nioh is well above average to great and the comat is above steller. The only mediocre aspect of Nioh is it's forgettable story. Same with Bloodborne, the combat is, or was stellar until Nioh surpassed it. Bloodborne is probably the most polished game of this generation, I'd rather a polished game that doesn't try to add narrative if it takes away the polished feel. They knew what to cut out and focused on male the game tight and .... i don't even know why I'm replying to this. You're entitled to your opinion...even if it's wrong. Critical and public aclaim for both games there bud. 

I guess this is why I avoid direct game discussions because of how subjective they are.

Visually nioh looks like a PS3 game, has a forgetable story and forgetable score. 

Bloodborne feels like a technically rushed game and again non existant story.

Snd you honestly think bloodbornes combat was was great???? No, it was tactical and very punishing, doesnt change the fact that you basically only had one string of combos based on whatever weapon you were using or that the strategy to beating most enemies boilt down to the same thing. 

Doesnt chanhe the fact that both games have crazy long loading screens. 

But lets agree to disagree, cause these are all opinions. All I will say is I rather get 75% across the board, than 100% in one area and 50% everywhere else.

You are sounding lilw-i said those gsmes are i mentioned are bad. 



Cerebralbore101 on 12 April 2018
Mr_No said:
I was buying it regardless of it being higher than 90, but damn, this is really impressive.

This is definitely a strong GOTY contender. Here's hoping Spider-man becomes another contender too.

Considering that Insomniac took copious notes from Treyarch's Spiderman 2, I think that one will definitely be a GOTY contender. 



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Intrinsic on 12 April 2018
John2290 said:
Intrinsic said:

But its true.... nioh in particular looked like a PS3 half the time, bloodborne basicsally had zero antialiasing. Nioh had forgetable music. Bloodborne had a forgetable story, hell I'm sure most people camt even male heads or tales of its story.

I love BB, but like with most games I play I call it for what it is. I won't let my love for said game make me blind to everything thats wrong with the game. 

Depending on who you talk to, a game thats a 100% in one aspect then 50% everywjere else can still be considered the best game of ever made. I would rather take a game that is 75% across the board. 

Eg look at the order, another one trick pony that unfortunately was only really great where it mattered the least. Its looks.

Silly, Intrinsic. Surely you can't be bringing The order into a debate over the merits of BB and Nioh. ^_^ Gave me a chuckle. 

Then you must be missing my point.

Look guys, I am not saying BB and Nioh are bad. I have both' and the only thing stopping me from platinuming BB is the darn get all weapons trophy which i can-only-do if i play the game again cause apparently i missed out on an NPC that will give me a badge that allows me buy a certain weapon......

You guys ought to relax and just read what I am really saying. And tell me if you honestly dom't see the-same thing in a lot of what would be otherwise god tier games.....



Nautilus on 12 April 2018
the-pi-guy said:
Intrinsic said:

But its true.... nioh in particular looked like a PS3 game  half the time, bloodborne basicsally had zero antialiasing. Nioh had forgetable music. Bloodborne had a forgetable story, hell I'm sure most people can't even make heads or tails of its story.

I love BB, but like with most games I play I call it for what it is. I won't let my love for said game make me blind to everything thats wrong with the game. 

Depending on who you talk to, a game thats a 100% in one aspect then 50% everywjere else can still be considered the best game of ever made. I would rather take a game that is 75% across the board. 

Eg look at the order, another one trick pony that unfortunately was only really great where it mattered the least. Its looks. 

 

Nautilus said:

I will give you this:Bloodborne story is beyond horrible.That storytelling, which is unfortunelly by design, is simply a crime in my opinion.Actually, all Souls- like game developed by From has a horrifiyng bad narrative.But thats about the only negative of the game.Level design, gameplay, music, they are all great.

I'm going to disagree about Bloodborne having a bad story.  It's incredible subtle about it's story that most people can easily complete the game and not even realize that there was a story.  I don't agree that makes it a bad story.  

The game has a fascinating history that you need to pay attention to get it.  Just because it doesn't spoon feed you the story, doesn't make it bad.  

The problem I personally have with the story is not the plot per se, but how it is told.You have to go totally out of your way to learn about it, and even then what you get is one plot full of literal holes that you have to fill with..... guesses and imagination.I know there are people out there that likes this, as the director himself said that he made the story like that on purpose because he likes to reach his own conclusions about what happened in a game and wants players to do the same, but thats just either lazy or straight terrible storytelling in my book.Either way, the least you can say about this style is that its completely divesive among gamers, the one that is either most hated or loved betwenn all styles in my opinion.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Intrinsic on 12 April 2018
the-pi-guy said: 

I'm going to disagree about Bloodborne having a bad story.  It's incredible subtle about it's story that most people can easily complete the game and not even realize that there was a story.  I don't agree that makes it a bad story.  

The game has a fascinating history that you need to pay attention to get it.  Just because it doesn't spoon feed you the story, doesn't make it bad.  

Please, do not mistake disjointed, obscure, cryptic and something that is full of holes as something that has depth and guile in its presentation.

BB has a bad story through and through. Has a lot of lore, but nothing there makes any sense at all. Like they exist just because they can. Its like some anime that is complicated and twisted just for the sake of being complicated and twisted. Piss poor and lazy writing. 

Even Kingdom hearts, with as convoluted a story as a Hideo Kojima game at least makes more sense than bloodborne.



Azuren on 12 April 2018
Intrinsic said:
the-pi-guy said: 

I'm going to disagree about Bloodborne having a bad story.  It's incredible subtle about it's story that most people can easily complete the game and not even realize that there was a story.  I don't agree that makes it a bad story.  

The game has a fascinating history that you need to pay attention to get it.  Just because it doesn't spoon feed you the story, doesn't make it bad.  

Please, do not mistake disjointed, obscure, cryptic and something that is full of holes as something that has depth and guile in its presentation.

BB has a bad story through and through. Has a lot of lore, but nothing there makes any sense at all. Like they exist just because they can. Its like some anime that is complicated and twisted just for the sake of being complicated and twisted. Piss poor and lazy writing. 

Even Kingdom hearts, with as convoluted a story as a Hideo Kojima game at least makes more sense than bloodborne.

Then maybe you can elaborate on why the story is so bad instead of making vague and unspecific claims? Because honestly, if you're going to sit here and just talk about how bad it is without giving an actual reason outside of "it's bad because it wasn't spelled out for me", then I have no reason to believe you're doing anything but low-key trolling, if not blatant baiting. This is a God of War thread, and as such there are plenty from the Sony Camp in here. Making claims like this without any real criticism is only going to incite flaming.



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Intrinsic on 12 April 2018
Azuren said:
Intrinsic said:

Please, do not mistake disjointed, obscure, cryptic and something that is full of holes as something that has depth and guile in its presentation.

BB has a bad story through and through. Has a lot of lore, but nothing there makes any sense at all. Like they exist just because they can. Its like some anime that is complicated and twisted just for the sake of being complicated and twisted. Piss poor and lazy writing. 

Even Kingdom hearts, with as convoluted a story as a Hideo Kojima game at least makes more sense than bloodborne.

Then maybe you can elaborate on why the story is so bad instead of making vague and unspecific claims? Because honestly, if you're going to sit here and just talk about how bad it is without giving an actual reason outside of "it's bad because it wasn't spelled out for me", then I have no reason to believe you're doing anything but low-key trolling, if not blatant baiting. This is a God of War thread, and as such there are plenty from the Sony Camp in here. Making claims like this without any real criticism is only going to incite flaming.

Ok... where to start?

  1. How do you even end up there getting a transfusion to begin with?
  2. Why is any of this hapoenning, 
  3. Ehats the connection between the hunters dream and the real world and how are you able to keep coming back.
  4. In one of the endings you are allowed to wake up, does that mean it was all a dream to begin with?
  5. why is EVERYONE in the game crazy?
I could go on..... and no, I'm sorry; but having a good story or narrative doesnt mean you have to be holding the persons hand. When you need to go outside the game and read on its lore to even have an inkling of an idea whats hapoenning in it it means the game has goofed up its story.
Low key trolling? get outta here with that nonsense.... so i come and say the game has a convoluted and bad story and that makes me a troll? do u want to see my trophies for the same stupid game in question?
smh..... this is exactly why i-never get-into any game related discussions....
How about this' outside MGS and MGS3 every other MGS has a silly convoluted and bad story. Snd make no mistake, a lot of-hand holding is done in that series.....