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NPD, PS4 2015 vs NSW 2018 (December added)

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Who wins?

PS4 66 40.24%
 
NSW 84 51.22%
 
Tie 14 8.54%
 
Total:164

Here's an update to the chart I posted earlier in the thread:

 

The Switch fell just short of what the PS4 sold in 2015, like, less than 2% difference. But 2015 was the PS4's peak year in the U.S., and the Switch still has plenty of potential for growth. The PS4 sold 5.1M in 2016, and I think the Switch will beat that this year by a considerable margin.



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PotentHerbs said:

That doesn't include PS4's second holiday season.

If you align like with like, then the PS4's 2014+2015 period should be compared to the Switch's 2017+2018, in which case you get:

NSW: 10.5M
PS4: 10.43M

The Switch wins by a relatively minuscule ~0.7%, due entirely to its first Q4.



Shadow1980 said:
PotentHerbs said:

That doesn't include PS4's second holiday season.

If you align like with like, then the PS4's 2014+2015 period should be compared to the Switch's 2017+2018, in which case you get:

NSW: 10.5M
PS4: 10.43M

The Switch wins by a relatively minuscule ~0.7%, due entirely to its first Q4.

Although the difference is rather miniscule, the 2013 PS4 launch inevitably took sales away from PS4's 2014 quarter. It did after all have some stock problems in Jan 2014.



Shadow1980 said:

Here's an update to the chart I posted earlier in the thread:

 

The Switch fell just short of what the PS4 sold in 2015, like, less than 2% difference. But 2015 was the PS4's peak year in the U.S., and the Switch still has plenty of potential for growth. The PS4 sold 5.1M in 2016, and I think the Switch will beat that this year by a considerable margin.

If I see that correctly, then Q4 2017 eats up all he PS4 winnings  in the other quarters combined



PotentHerbs said:
Miyamotoo said:

Maybe PS4 didnt had one huge system seller game like Smash, but had much more system seller games in any case, combined lineup of games like Dying Light, Bloodborne, Battlefield: Hardline, Mortal Kombat X, Witcher 3, Batman: Arkham Knight, Madden, Destiny: Taken King, Need For Speed, Uncharted CollectionMetal Gear Solid V, Assassin's Creed: Syndicate, Fallout 4, Call of Duty: Black Ops III, Star Wars: Battlefront, Rainbow Six: Seige...destroys hole 2018. Switch lineup (including Smash Bros + Pokemon).

Point that PS4 is not hybrid dont change nothing, we were talking about lineups.

Point that people (not only fans) expected 2m+ in December dont change nothing, Switch selling around 200k+ less that change nothing.

Actually it is, Switch is outselling PS4 launch aligned, and that shows how strong beast Switch also is, because PS4 had incredible strong sales and it will be 2nd best selling home console of all time, and Switch have stronger sales in same time period.

https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1088455577108283394?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1088455577108283394&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html%231088455577108283394

That doesn't include PS4's second holiday season. 

The majority of games you listed are multi - plat and only had a limited time bundle (Batman + MGS). Some of these games also had a XOne limited time bundle. Again, nothing compared to Smash + Pokemon, Switch being cheaper, and being a hybrid. Many factors have to be considered when comparing two different devices. 

But you wrote "Switch It just isn't outselling the PS4 launch aligned", and that's not true, because it does outselling PS4. But even if we compare just first two hole years on market, for Switch 2017. and 2018. while for PS4 2014. and 2015., Switch is again above.

NSW: 10.5M
PS4: 10.43M

 

You do realise that multiplatform games are system sellers for PS4, right? 9 from top 10 selling PS4 games are all multi platform games, in comparison to Switch top 10 best selling games are all exclusive Nintendo games. Hole PS4 2015. lineup was far stronger for PS4 than it was 2018. for Switch, I mean Switch had 2 strong games while PS4 had 10 of them. Limited bundle don't change nothing, we talking about lineup of games, not about bundles. We were taking about lineup of games, not about what is hybrid and what is cheaper, but yeah you are right that there different factors to considered when comparing them, for instance Switch is cheaper but PS4 is much stronger, has much bigger HDD, has BD support, much stronger 3rd party support, had price cut in 2015. and better BF deals...so don't act like everything goes in favour of Switch because thats far from true.



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Price really can't be considered an issue either. If PS4 had released cheaper, Sony would have either bled money or the PS4 would be a completely different and less powerful machine.



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Miyamotoo said:
PotentHerbs said:

That doesn't include PS4's second holiday season. 

The majority of games you listed are multi - plat and only had a limited time bundle (Batman + MGS). Some of these games also had a XOne limited time bundle. Again, nothing compared to Smash + Pokemon, Switch being cheaper, and being a hybrid. Many factors have to be considered when comparing two different devices. 

But you wrote "Switch It just isn't outselling the PS4 launch aligned", and that's not true, because it does outselling PS4. But even if we compare just first two hole years on market, for Switch 2017. and 2018. while for PS4 2014. and 2015., Switch is again above.

NSW: 10.5M
PS4: 10.43M

 

You do realise that multiplatform games are system sellers for PS4, right? 9 from top 10 selling PS4 games are all multi platform games, in comparison to Switch top 10 best selling games are all exclusive Nintendo games. Hole PS4 2015. lineup was far stronger for PS4 than it was 2018. for Switch, I mean Switch had 2 strong games while PS4 had 10 of them. Limited bundle don't change nothing, we talking about lineup of games, not about bundles. We were taking about lineup of games, not about what is hybrid and what is cheaper, but yeah you are right that there different factors to considered when comparing them, for instance Switch is cheaper but PS4 is much stronger, has much bigger HDD, has BD support, much stronger 3rd party support, had price cut in 2015. and better BF deals...so don't act like everything goes in favour of Switch because thats far from true.

I should have been more clear, I'm referring to worldwide sales launch aligned. 

PS4's lineup in 2018 dwarfs PS4's lineup in 2015 critically and commercially. Its not close in any measure. Far stronger? C'mon now lol.

Obviously, PS4 having a stronger library of games is a factor, but exclusive software moves more hardware compared to limited third party bundles. Switch being a hybrid, is the most favorable factor within PS4 comparisons, as it draws from both handheld and console consumers, IMO.

Anyways, PS4 won this particular comparison, which is the main point of my post, despite the massive consensus in this thread that expected Switch to win.



PotentHerbs said:

I should have been more clear, I'm referring to worldwide sales launch aligned. 

PS4's lineup in 2018 dwarfs PS4's lineup in 2015 critically and commercially. Its not close in any measure. Far stronger? C'mon now lol.

Obviously, PS4 having a stronger library of games is a factor, but exclusive software moves more hardware compared to limited third party bundles. Switch being a hybrid, is the most favorable factor within PS4 comparisons, as it draws from both handheld and console consumers, IMO.

Anyways, PS4 won this particular comparison, which is the main point of my post, despite the massive consensus in this thread that expected Switch to win.

Worldwide sales launches aligned has Switch ahead.

PS4 as of Sept 19, 2015 (22 months)-26.9m

NSW as of Jan 5, 2019 (22 months)-30.5m

 

And no there was no massive consensus, look at the poll.

PS4-40%

NSW-50%

Tie-10%



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zorg1000 said:
PotentHerbs said:

I should have been more clear, I'm referring to worldwide sales launch aligned. 

PS4's lineup in 2018 dwarfs PS4's lineup in 2015 critically and commercially. Its not close in any measure. Far stronger? C'mon now lol.

Obviously, PS4 having a stronger library of games is a factor, but exclusive software moves more hardware compared to limited third party bundles. Switch being a hybrid, is the most favorable factor within PS4 comparisons, as it draws from both handheld and console consumers, IMO.

Anyways, PS4 won this particular comparison, which is the main point of my post, despite the massive consensus in this thread that expected Switch to win.

Worldwide sales launches aligned has Switch ahead.

PS4 as of Sept 19, 2015 (22 months)-26.9m

NSW as of Jan 5, 2019 (22 months)-30.5m

 

And no there was no massive consensus, look at the poll.

PS4-40%

NSW-50%

Tie-10%

Do you have the figures for PS4 2014 + 2015 vs Switch 2017 + 2018 worldwide sales?

I was speaking about the general consensus for the last 10 or so pages on here. 

Last edited by PotentHerbs - on 26 January 2019

2015 was the third year PS4 was on sales since it was released in 2013 - so guess you need to amend your figures.