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PS4 Won February NPD (PS4: 363K, XBO: 310K, NSW: 279K)

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Lawlight said:
BlackBeauty said:
The PS4 is down YOY.

Time for 5.

It’s still $299. Calm down.

And it is still the leading sales console year to date... No Rush for 5



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Double post.

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Alkibiádēs said:
quickrick said:
“Sony’s PlayStation 4 was the best-selling console in February,” said Piscatella. “And it remains the best-selling console year to date.”

for anyone doubting.

How about you quote everything he said, including: 

"US NPD SW - Nintendo was February's leading publisher in software dollar sales, while Capcom remains the top-selling publisher of 2018."

And:

"US NPD HW - Nintendo Switch remains on a record setting sales pace. Over the first twelve months in market, Nintendo Switch has achieved the highest installed base for a console platform in history."

Why would he do that when that dont fail in agenda that Switch is loosing momentum. :)

 

gcwy said: 
Miyamotoo said: 

Obviously, one month Switch is not first and we are back to Nintendo is doomed agenda. :)

No one is claiming Nintendoomed. There is nothing wrong with Switch losing momentum. It would be completely normal. Nintendo will probably get it back with another major first party release like Pokemon. But for now, Switch does seem to be losing momentum. 

But thats a point, Switch is not loosing momentum, if you look this February numbers you will see they are better than most Switch NPD months from last year if we don't include launch and holiday months of course.

 

 

Lawlight said: 
Miyamotoo said: 

What you wrote dont make any sense, consoles usauly have better sales later not in its first year, last year was PS4s peak year until now, and now plenty people saying that this one can be even better. Also PS3 also had peak year around 5. year on market.

You’re wrong. Consoles don’t usually sell better in their 5th year than a newer system. You’re also wrong in comparison the Switch to a PS console because PS systems have staggered launches unlike the Switch which had a simultaneous worldwide release. And comparison the PS3’s 5th year to any other system? The PS3 launched at $599. It wasn’t affordable until much later in its life cycle unlike the Switch which was affordable at launch.

Also, will you admit that the Switch hasn’t sold as well as you expected this year so far in the US?

No again you are wrong, you made comparison despite fact is that in most cases consoles dont have 1st year like peak year and that in most cases 2, 3 or 4th years are usualy peak years for consoles, in case of PS consoles, PS3 peaked in its 5. year on market while now PS4 will peaked in 4. or 5. year on market, so yeah, nothing strange that if PS console is selling better in its 4-5. year on market than Nintendo console in its 1st year on market, espacily for console thats on road to become 2nd best selling console ever. Price point dont change things too much, Wii U was launched at lower price point than PS4 but it failed miserably, Switch basicaly have same price point but its selling several times better than Wii U.

Why I would admit that when Switch sales are still quite good, it sold 550k in two slow months for Nintendo where Switch had only Bayonetta, but beacuse Amazon I did expect Switch will best selling console in February also like it was in January, but that still dont change fact that Switch still sold good in February in any case.

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Miyamotoo said:
Alkibiádēs said:

How about you quote everything he said, including: 

"US NPD SW - Nintendo was February's leading publisher in software dollar sales, while Capcom remains the top-selling publisher of 2018."

And:

"US NPD HW - Nintendo Switch remains on a record setting sales pace. Over the first twelve months in market, Nintendo Switch has achieved the highest installed base for a console platform in history."

Why would he do that when that dont fail in agenda that Switch is loosing momentum. :)

 

gcwy said: 

No one is claiming Nintendoomed. There is nothing wrong with Switch losing momentum. It would be completely normal. Nintendo will probably get it back with another major first party release like Pokemon. But for now, Switch does seem to be losing momentum. 

But thats a point, Switch is not loosing momentum, if you look this February numbers you will see they are better than most Switch NPD months from last year if we don't include launch and holiday months of course.

 

 

Lawlight said: 

You’re wrong. Consoles don’t usually sell better in their 5th year than a newer system. You’re also wrong in comparison the Switch to a PS console because PS systems have staggered launches unlike the Switch which had a simultaneous worldwide release. And comparison the PS3’s 5th year to any other system? The PS3 launched at $599. It wasn’t affordable until much later in its life cycle unlike the Switch which was affordable at launch.

Also, will you admit that the Switch hasn’t sold as well as you expected this year so far in the US?

No again you are wrong, you made comparison despite fact is that in most cases consoles dont have 1st year like peak year and that in most cases 2, 3 or 4th years are usualy peak years for consoles, in case of PS consoles, PS3 peaked in its 5. year on market while now PS4 will peaked in 4. or 5. year on market, so yeah, nothing strange that if PS console is selling better in its 4-5. year on market than Nintendo console in its 1st year on market, espacily for console thats on road to become 2nd best selling console ever. Price point dont change things too much, Wii U was launched at lower price point than PS4 but it failed miserably, Switch basicaly have same price point but its selling several times better than Wii U.

Why I would admit that when Switch sales are still quite good, it sold 550k in two slow months for Nintendo where Switch had only Bayonetta, but beacuse Amazon I did expect Switch will best selling console in February also like it was in January, but that still dont change fact that Switch still sold good in February in any case.

about the momentum thing, there will be slow months where switch will lose momentum like april,  while technically it lost momentum, but it really didnt cause april is just a slow month. in regards to staying ahead of ps4 average monthly numbers it lost momentum for the first time.  



quickrick said:
Miyamotoo said:

Why would he do that when that dont fail in agenda that Switch is loosing momentum. :)

 

But thats a point, Switch is not loosing momentum, if you look this February numbers you will see they are better than most Switch NPD months from last year if we don't include launch and holiday months of course.

 

 

No again you are wrong, you made comparison despite fact is that in most cases consoles dont have 1st year like peak year and that in most cases 2, 3 or 4th years are usualy peak years for consoles, in case of PS consoles, PS3 peaked in its 5. year on market while now PS4 will peaked in 4. or 5. year on market, so yeah, nothing strange that if PS console is selling better in its 4-5. year on market than Nintendo console in its 1st year on market, espacily for console thats on road to become 2nd best selling console ever. Price point dont change things too much, Wii U was launched at lower price point than PS4 but it failed miserably, Switch basicaly have same price point but its selling several times better than Wii U.

Why I would admit that when Switch sales are still quite good, it sold 550k in two slow months for Nintendo where Switch had only Bayonetta, but beacuse Amazon I did expect Switch will best selling console in February also like it was in January, but that still dont change fact that Switch still sold good in February in any case.

about the momentum thing, there will be slow months where switch will lose momentum like april,  while technically it lost momentum, but it really didnt cause april is just a slow month. in regards to staying ahead of ps4 average monthly numbers it lost momentum for the first time.  

April for Switch will probably be stronger than March because of Labo. No, if you look this February numbers you will see they are better than most Switch NPD months from last year. Switch didnt loosed evre NPD month last year also, is that means that Switch last year also were losing momentum!? Fact that Switch sold less than PS4 or XB1, doesnt mean it lossing momentum, Switch can continue momentum and to have good sales despite PS4/XB1 sold better.



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Miyamotoo said:
quickrick said:

about the momentum thing, there will be slow months where switch will lose momentum like april,  while technically it lost momentum, but it really didnt cause april is just a slow month. in regards to staying ahead of ps4 average monthly numbers it lost momentum for the first time.  

April for Switch will probably be stronger than March because of Labo. No, if you look this February numbers you will see they are better than most Switch NPD months from last year. Switch didnt loosed evre NPD month last year also, is that means that Switch last year also were losing momentum!? Fact that Switch sold less than PS4 or XB1, doesnt mean it lossing momentum, Switch can continue momentum and to have good sales despite PS4/XB1 sold better.

its because February  is bigger then any other month except for november, and december. also something can look like its losing momentum, but it can be regained in minutes, just because switch looks like its losing momentum to some doesn't mean it can't be regained next month.



Holy cow the Saltiness on Switch's success in this thread

 

 

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quickrick said:
Miyamotoo said:

April for Switch will probably be stronger than March because of Labo. No, if you look this February numbers you will see they are better than most Switch NPD months from last year. Switch didnt loosed evre NPD month last year also, is that means that Switch last year also were losing momentum!? Fact that Switch sold less than PS4 or XB1, doesnt mean it lossing momentum, Switch can continue momentum and to have good sales despite PS4/XB1 sold better.

its because February  is bigger then any other month except for november, and december. also something can look like its losing momentum, but it can be regained in minutes, just because switch looks like its losing momentum to some doesn't mean it can't be regained next month.

No in case of Nintendo February is not bigger than any other month except november and december, no it doesnt lossing momentum and this picturer proves that, only launch month, october, november and december were stronger than february.



thismeintiel said:
I think it's pretty crazy that PS4 has done so well while remaining $299 for almost two years. Imagine what will happen when it hits $199 permanently.

 

zorg1000 said:
thismeintiel said:
I think it's pretty crazy that PS4 has done so well while remaining $299 for almost two years. Imagine what will happen when it hits $199 permanently.

The craziest part is that its only down ~8% YOY in Feb despite last year having a $50 discount.

I expect a cut to $199 this year, maybe around the time Spider Man comes out. That game, coupled with the official price cut, bundles and special edition consoles will do wonders.

I expect Spider Man and price cut to drop around September, then RDR2 will release end of October and PS4 will stay in pole position for the rest of the year.

For now PS4 is still winning without the heavy weights, but God of War is launching soon...



Turkish said:
thismeintiel said:
I think it's pretty crazy that PS4 has done so well while remaining $299 for almost two years. Imagine what will happen when it hits $199 permanently.

 

zorg1000 said:

The craziest part is that its only down ~8% YOY in Feb despite last year having a $50 discount.

I expect a cut to $199 this year, maybe around the time Spider Man comes out. That game, coupled with the official price cut, bundles and special edition consoles will do wonders.

I expect Spider Man and price cut to drop around September, then RDR2 will release end of October and PS4 will stay in pole position for the rest of the year.

For now PS4 is still winning without the heavy weights, but God of War is launching soon...

God of War and Spider-Man, alongside a price drop and smart marketing, could do wonders indeed if the games are well received. Critical reception and word of mouth are pretty big factors now.