Mary Sue: An excessively idealized woman character with no notable defects that gets all the attention of the story and is usually overpowered or more skilled than the rest of the characters, usually is an idealized alter-ego of the author which most of the times is a woman. When men characters follow this pattern they are called Marty Stus, a term that is almost never use for mysterious reasons that can be blamed on... Sexism: Discrimination based on a person sex or gender.

Yes, Kirito is also one. That sort of character is fairly normal in anime but they are much better written than they are in films or comics. 😎 One of the best examples of a Gary Stu is Superman. Another good example of a Mary Sue is Wonder woman from the new film.

Good boy. At least I know you can use google but you still don't quite get them. Otherwise, you would see why she's a Mary Sue. Even Soundwave acknowledged that she is one and that her character doesn't make sense within the sw universe but he's fine with it. Why are you debating this still when you've been shown that you're wrong on this by more than a few people and you're resorting to calling us sexist when we're clearly not?

Victim complex turned into desire to be a martyr.

The reason I felt the need to respond is I actually feel quite strongly about women's issues and sexism in society.  Part of that is seeing when it exists or not.  If the argument people were making was "I don't like Rey because she is a woman" then I would understand.  It wasn't, people were saying she wasn't appealing or unrelateable due to being so skilled and things coming so easy for her.

When people quickly go to "ists" in arguing against someone it reduces the impact of the word and its meaning.  If we are all sexists as he claims, that puts us on equal footing with people who have committed awful acts and undercuts the power of the word.  If I, someone who has worked for years on my own time supporting women who've been through hell, am sexist then the perception becomes it really isn't such a bad thing to be one.

I was trying to convey that if you see Rey and default to "woman" that is objectifying her more than "Character I dislike or take issue with".  Defining people into categories and segregating us is not the path I see forward.  My belief as a feminist is men are an ally because it is about creating the most equal society we can.  That means I respect members here more that respond to me no differently in a discussion than if my sex were male.

Did the Falcon crash? No. Okay, I can buy that.

What I cannot buy is that the Falcon would be able to outmaneuver multiple fighters considering its larger relative mass. That's like a cargo van outmaneuvering a race car or a B28 bomber outmaneuvering a fighter.

The Falcon was meant for smuggling, not maneuvering but in the hands of Rey, it can do anything.

In the original trilogy it does exactly that during the battle of Endor :p

Like I said, if you don't like the adjective then Rey is  overly competent to the point that credibility in her character and tension in the film are both destroyed.

What I am saying is that you are parroting the term Mary Sue without knowing what it means, or where it originated...
Backpedaling out of your own thread is not a good look

Are you suggesting that in the act of liking/trusting Rey, the other characters break the fourth wall?

I am suggesting they have no reason to dislike her, especially since they are short on manpower and on Force users

I'm expecting the cast to be neutral to her, not to dislike her much like how to Han, Luke was just talking cargo and to Leia, Luke was a means to escape. Even after all was said and done near the end of ANH, Han wanted to leave and Leia was getting back to work fighting the Empire. All Luke's connections got him was joining with other X-Wing fighters in a daring attack on the Death Star.

Compare that to Finn who devoted himself to Rey or Rey getting a critical lone mission to find Luke. Rather than the rebels sending a delegation to meet Luke in this vital mission, they send a newcomer on her own. Compare that to Kylo who is trying to recruit her to his side. Vader was aiming to kill Luke in ANH.

No, I'm suggesting a wounded Kylo Ren should be able to at least render helpless a novice Rey who just recently discovered the force and just recently wielded a saber. Instead, she wins and the tension in the scene is destroyed. Kylo Ren's threat level is destroyed. I'm not invested anymore because Rey just keeps showing she always comes out on top no matter the circumstance.

Is it so much to ask for that the protagonist get his/her ass kicked a bit and lose here and there much like with Luke? Give the opposition a bit of a threat level rather than removing it.

If you pay attention (I know, it's hard) to the fight he is clearly shown to have the upper hand even when wounded and emotionally distraught. Even working with "threat levels" he is still clearly the strongest fighter. It would be asinine to suggest he is weaker just because he lost. Like saying Vader is shit because he got shot down in the first movie.
Also I suggest watching TLJ if you are really hoping to see Rey outclassed and at her lowest point yet.

Rey is overly competent to the point that credibility in her character and tension in the film are both destroyed. How's that?

Still piss, sorry.

This bears repeating btw:

I think there's an angle you're not seeing here. I'm sure you could provide reasons [at least one of us can] as to why Rey always seems to have the upper hand in whatever situation she finds herself but this doesn't change the fact that she always has an upper hand. No feat seems impossible to her.

This is a problem for storytelling: things like building tension and helping the viewer to suspend their disbelief are done by not only making a character believable but also making the antagonist threatening. Rey being good at so many things at some point becomes unbelievable.

I think everyone here would agree that they're good at some things and bad at other things. I'm good at math and science but I'm terrible at reading Shakespeare. That stuff is not modern-day English. Even people really good at one thing are not so good at another: Michael Jordan was a great basketball player but a mediocre baseball player.

Being able to fix things, speak droid, fight well, and even overcome Kylo's mind probe and turn it against him runs counter to building tension because at some point, I just expect Rey to always win. Rey being good at everything isn't gonna make me wonder if she'll be able to overcome the next obstacle, I'll just get used to expecting it.

Quick round:
Fix things and speak droid: it's her literal job
Fight well: grew up on a lawless scrap-collecting planet
Kylo: he is clearly unwell and the film goes to great lenghts to portray him at such; the failed mind probe is not meant to show she's immune to mind probes (as the sequel shows), but to showcase furthermore Kylo's instability and very clear weaknesses
Always win: she was never kidnapped, she never had to run away while her opponent was unconscious

That's boring: tension dies and suspension of disbelief is shattered. It's what happens when you turn on god mode in a game: fun at first but it gets boring quickly. Without risk, where's the fun? Where's the challenge? Would a game that was won by pressing a 'press to win' button be fun?

No, it wouldn't be fun.

To add to all this, this latest Star Wars trilogy does not exist in a vacuum and neither does Rey's character: Luke Skywalker exists in this universe and he had to get his ass kicked before becoming the capable Luke Skywalker in episode 6. He got his ass handed to him by cantina thugs, tusken raiders, Darth Vader, and even the emperor rendered him helpless with lightning.

"Rey doesn't have the same character arc as Luke" is not a flaw in storytelling

Thankfully for Luke, he had people to help him: Obi-Wan rescued him from cantina thugs and tusken raiders, R2 and 3PO saved him from getting squashed, Han Solo saved him from getting shot down in ANH and freezing to death in ESB, Leia saved him when he was close to plunging to his death in ESB, Darth Vader saved him from the emperor in RotJ.

Rey's story in the sequel is far more isolated from anyone elses, but even in TFA she frequently needs others help: Finn's when escaping the planet as he mans the turret, Han because he knows the galaxy better than she does, the Resistance to carry out the final mission etc.
Hell, she's straight up knocked out by Kylo on two separate occasions, AND as to run away from Storm Troopers.
Your vision of Rey as someone who always comes out on top is not one supported by the film. It's in your head.

Rey saved herself when in the same film, Poe needed help from Finn and Finn needed help from Rey. Doesn't seem terribly balanced.

I think this post unwillingly highlights why you have a problem, and that is you've come to codify the specific beat of the original trilogy as being "how you make good movies", and have come to resent any deviation from those. 

Kylo Ren is not Darth Vader: as an antagonist he is not scary because he can win, but paradoxically, because he can lose. He is the closest we've seen a character struggle with Light and Dark side. Portraying, such as was the case with Vader, as an immutable, undefeatable villain would have undermined this point. He can be defeated, he can be reasoned with, explain himself and his actions. However he is wrong, and that's why he is a threat.

Furthermore, for Rey to have a foible such as Vader would also not make sense. Her arc, unlike Luke's, is not based in wanting to be part of a larger world, but in being afraid that she's not worthy of living among the legends she grew up idolizing. 
Luke's struggle (see ESB) is that he could become Vader; Rey's struggle is that she could become Kylo. 

I think this post unwillingly highlights why you have a problem, and that is you've come to codify the specific beat of the original trilogy as being "how you make good movies", and have come to resent any deviation from those. 

Kylo Ren is not Darth Vader: as an antagonist he is not scary because he can win, but paradoxically, because he can lose. He is the closest we've seen a character struggle with Light and Dark side. Portraying, such as was the case with Vader, as an immutable, undefeatable villain would have undermined this point. He can be defeated, he can be reasoned with, explain himself and his actions. However he is wrong, and that's why he is a threat.

Furthermore, for Rey to have a foible such as Vader would also not make sense. Her arc, unlike Luke's, is not based in wanting to be part of a larger world, but in being afraid that she's not worthy of living among the legends she grew up idolizing. 
Luke's struggle (see ESB) is that he could become Vader; Rey's struggle is that she could become Kylo.