Also, Leia flying in space was definitely one of the stupidest shit I've ever seen in cinema, it's right up there with that scene in Battle of the Five Armies (another awful film) where Legolas jumps on falling blocks denying like 23 laws of physics at the same time. This is the kind of scene that, when you watch a crappy movie, you will inevitably center around, because it's that one stupidest moment that will always come to mind before anything else. The "Leia has the force because of her bloodline" excuse is terrible, because we've had 4 and a half movies with her without her ever showing even a single sign of using it (no, someone else telling her she can do it doesn't count), and as I said, it's something that was not only never explained, but also never even acknowledged by the movie. It's completely unbelievable, you'd think at least one person in the Star Wars universe would have said "what the fuck?!" the same way everyone in the crowd did, but nope, no acknowledgement at all.

To be fair, while he may have loss the spectacle of some scenes (the visuals were never one of the complaints, except maybe some poor CG in a few spots), he'll still be able to experience/judge the flaws in the plot/characters of the movie.

Some people just don't want to give this movie their support and money. I know I don't. I got in a free showing at my son's theater. If it had been great, I probably would have paid to see it with a friend. 

The movie is doing fine. Thursday domestic numbers are up on Box Office Mojo. $168 domestic total for Week 2 (Dec. 22 - 28) as a whole. $464.7M total LTD. To put these figures into perspective:

1) It's the second-largest second full week of any movie ever after TFA.

2) It was a 43.3% week-over-week drop overall for the whole 7-day period, making it a smaller second-week drop than other notable big blockbusters with huge openings, e.g. The Avengers, Jurassic World, The Dark Knight, etc., though it was a larger drop than TFA and Rogue One.

3) However, it was actually up week-over-week every day this past Monday-Thursday period, grossing $96.53M for the 4-day period, vs. $76.6M for the same period last week, an increase of 26% (though to be fair Monday was Christmas, though it's also worth pointing up it did better on the 26th than on Christmas Day). It's highly unusual for a movie like this in the 21st century to experience week-over-week growth of any kind, much less in any of the four off-days. Even major holidays have only helped for that one day. To my knowledge, only Avatar did anything similar for a movie of this level of commercial success in the past 10-15 years.

4) TLJ's 4-day Mon.-Thur. gross was also 8% better than the same period for RO, and far outclassed everything else in the same period besides TFA.

5) It has now surpassed Attack of the Clones' inflation-adjusted lifetime gross, and is on track to pass Revenge of the Sith's and Rogue One's adjusted lifetime gross within a week (it just needs $75M more).

In short, claims that it's doing disappointing numbers are just flat out wrong, or at least premature. We'll have to see how its legs are.

Eh. In that case, I don't know. All movies are a lot worse when you watch them like that, but at this point the damage is done. The reality is, you didn't give it a fair chance, so your opinion is harder to take seriously - then again I did at least try to give it a fair chance, and I hated it. So, whatever.

To be fair, while he may have loss the spectacle of some scenes (the visuals were never one of the complaints, except maybe some poor CG in a few spots), he'll still be able to experience/judge the flaws in the plot/characters of the movie.

Some people just don't want to give this movie their support and money. I know I don't. I got in a free showing at my son's theater. If it had been great, I probably would have paid to see it with a friend. 

Eh. In that case, I don't know. All movies are a lot worse when you watch them like that, but at this point the damage is done. The reality is, you didn't give it a fair chance, so your opinion is harder to take seriously - then again I did at least try to give it a fair chance, and I hated it. So, whatever.

I saw tfa awakens in the same way and after that bought on Youtube. I may get also tlj on yt when it's uploaded.

As I said to him, and agreed with you, outside of some spectacle, the scenes are the same. Script is the same and story too.

Yeah because the script is the only thing important in cinema, a thousand people working in a movie and at the end we only valorate the work of one of them, because that's all what cinema is about, a story written on a piece of paper... oh wait...

3 days ago after a week downgrading the movie he said this: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8671342

So he was downgrading something he didn't saw at all and probably haven't seen yet.

And yet he dares to talk about desperation lol

3 days ago after a week downgrading the movie he said this: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8671342

So he was downgrading something he didn't saw at all and probably haven't seen yet.

And yet he dares to talk about desperation lol