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Could Sony make a successful Switch ?

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potato_hamster said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Thank you for the link, i'm wondering where to find it. Can't wait to see Sony announce Xperia outsold both Iphone and Samsung Galaxy oh wait

Is this a clever put down in your mind or something?

Who know? You are the one who bring the link here so you are very clever, maybe



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HoangNhatAnh said:
EricHiggin said:

AMD is known for x86 but also dabbles in ARM. Nvidia Tegra is the chip branding, but uses ARM cores. I didn't say third party suited handheld. If Nin fans care so much about good games like Doom and Skyrim on a handheld hybrid, then PS gamers will care about having them on a portable, along with PS first party games. Just because Switch potentially sold more units in one month, that means it owns NA? It's the fastest selling, not best selling. Being the fastest 100 meter sprinter on Earth is basically meaningless if your competing in the 800 meter race. We need to see if Switch also has stamina. Some people, like journalists especially, were saying consoles were dead, yet PS4 and even XB1 are doing fine, if not amazing, so it's no surprise that a Nin handheld hybrid is having success so far. A $500 high performance console would have been super risky, a $200 low performance console would have been quite risky, no console at all would have made Nin look like they had been defeated an given up, so merging their console with their handheld, and adding some functionality that made the Wii sell so well, with a reasonable market price for it all, was the least risky by far. The more third party support it gets, along with more online support and app support, the less risky it becomes as the gen goes on. A handheld hybrid was still a risk, but the safest one they could have taken. 

It was the first hybrid which was used in gaming. Handheld market shrinking each year, look at DS to 3DS sales and PSP to Vita sales and this Switch is a new handheld Nintendo made with $300 price, outside some Nintendo portables fans, no one think they can sell decent, let alone success. Are you a Nintendo fan? Clearly not, if i'm not mistaken, many Sony fans disagree with Switch will continue selling in 2018 or more precisely, they think Switch will stop in 2018 and get GameCube sales or a bit more at best. Look like some change the attitude too fast, i wonder why. Because it is Sony, right?

Just because a market may be shrinking, doesn't mean those customers are gone forever, or new one's can't be added. Vita isn't a very good example because it's support and marketing was very poor. The proper product will sell, you just have to create it and market it correctly. Based on my avatar, yes, I am a fan of all brands. I do slightly prefer PS, but not by much. I don't know why you think I hate Nin. I've simply been trying to explain why a new PS portable could be possible, and all you seem to want to do is prove that somehow what I'm really trying to do is bash Switch. For what it is, it's a great product. Not exactly for me, mostly due to it's lack of third party support at the moment, which is why a PS portable that would play PS4 games, which would almost guarantee third party support, would be enticing. If Switch were $100 cheaper, with the support it has now, I could justify buying it for it's Nin games, but that's just me. Other PS fans can think whatever they want, but Switch looks to be on a roll, which doesn't guarantee it sells like Wii in the end, but it clearly is a major improvement over Wii U. This year should be a major indication. If Switch sales at the very least flatline and stay steady, 40M - 50M sales shouldn't be out of the question. Maybe sales increase, maybe they decrease. We'll see what happens. Many things can change in a years time, that may or may not be something Nin can control. The truth is, the better Switch does, the more likely PS or XB are going to try and create their own Switch.



EricHiggin said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

It was the first hybrid which was used in gaming. Handheld market shrinking each year, look at DS to 3DS sales and PSP to Vita sales and this Switch is a new handheld Nintendo made with $300 price, outside some Nintendo portables fans, no one think they can sell decent, let alone success. Are you a Nintendo fan? Clearly not, if i'm not mistaken, many Sony fans disagree with Switch will continue selling in 2018 or more precisely, they think Switch will stop in 2018 and get GameCube sales or a bit more at best. Look like some change the attitude too fast, i wonder why. Because it is Sony, right?

Just because a market may be shrinking, doesn't mean those customers are gone forever, or new one's can't be added. Vita isn't a very good example because it's support and marketing was very poor. The proper product will sell, you just have to create it and market it correctly. Based on my avatar, yes, I am a fan of all brands. I do slightly prefer PS, but not by much. I don't know why you think I hate Nin. I've simply been trying to explain why a new PS portable could be possible, and all you seem to want to do is prove that somehow what I'm really trying to do is bash Switch. For what it is, it's a great product. Not exactly for me, mostly due to it's lack of third party support at the moment, which is why a PS portable that would play PS4 games, which would almost guarantee third party support, would be enticing. If Switch were $100 cheaper, with the support it has now, I could justify buying it for it's Nin games, but that's just me. Other PS fans can think whatever they want, but Switch looks to be on a roll, which doesn't guarantee it sells like Wii in the end, but it clearly is a major improvement over Wii U. This year should be a major indication. If Switch sales at the very least flatline and stay steady, 40M - 50M sales shouldn't be out of the question. Maybe sales increase, maybe they decrease. We'll see what happens. Many things can change in a years time, that may or may not be something Nin can control. The truth is, the better Switch does, the more likely PS or XB are going to try and create their own Switch.

Yeah, it clearly are lacking third party game when it have nothing compared to Wii or even Wii U in 10 months: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games

And of course Sony can make better Switch by copy Nintendo idea's first then hope for AMD can make a mobile chip that is way stronger than Nvidia's Tegra X3 which cost $250 only and last 4 - 5 hours or even a lot more. It also can sell like PSP because all Western customers are willing to buy a portable when they love play on TV with mega hit like Sonymon - Pokemon killer



HoangNhatAnh said:

Yeah, it clearly are lacking third party game when it have nothing compared to Wii or even Wii U in 10 months: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games

And of course Sony can make better Switch by copy Nintendo idea's first then hope for AMD can make a mobile chip that is way stronger than Nvidia's Tegra X3 which cost $250 only and last 4 - 5 hours or even a lot more. It also can sell like PSP because all Western customers are willing to buy a portable when they love play on TV with mega hit like Sonymon - Pokemon killer

Honestly, I don't even see how there is an argument to a PlayStation Switch Succeeding, especially if it takes over for the Xperia brand as well. Sony was able to sell 16 million Vitas with almost no support. They are able to sell 14 million Xperias a year with no marketing or contracts in the US. There is really no easier play in all of business than Sony finally delivering a PlayStation Phone that can hook to the TV. It should have happened with the original PSP, and it still should happen today.

Not only would a PlayStation Switch Phone be successful, it would be the highest selling peice of gaming hardware in the history of the industry. The most versatile gaming device ever made, the deepest library in the history of mobile gaming devices, the first VR enabled handheld gaming device, and the first portable gaming device to allow full form online multiplayer any time any place with wifi or a 4G/5G. Sony has everything they need to make every statement above a reality, and if they do, they will propel PlayStation and Sony into the big leagues.



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They have no choice but to succeed. I pretty sure they will succeed.



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KBG29 said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Yeah, it clearly are lacking third party game when it have nothing compared to Wii or even Wii U in 10 months: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games

And of course Sony can make better Switch by copy Nintendo idea's first then hope for AMD can make a mobile chip that is way stronger than Nvidia's Tegra X3 which cost $250 only and last 4 - 5 hours or even a lot more. It also can sell like PSP because all Western customers are willing to buy a portable when they love play on TV with mega hit like Sonymon - Pokemon killer

Honestly, I don't even see how there is an argument to a PlayStation Switch Succeeding, especially if it takes over for the Xperia brand as well. Sony was able to sell 16 million Vitas with almost no support. They are able to sell 14 million Xperias a year with no marketing or contracts in the US. There is really no easier play in all of business than Sony finally delivering a PlayStation Phone that can hook to the TV. It should have happened with the original PSP, and it still should happen today.

Not only would a PlayStation Switch Phone be successful, it would be the highest selling peice of gaming hardware in the history of the industry. The most versatile gaming device ever made, the deepest library in the history of mobile gaming devices, the first VR enabled handheld gaming device, and the first portable gaming device to allow full form online multiplayer any time any place with wifi or a 4G/5G. Sony has everything they need to make every statement above a reality, and if they do, they will propel PlayStation and Sony into the big leagues.

This is one of the most delusional things ever written on this site.



HoangNhatAnh said:

Yeah, it clearly are lacking third party game when it have nothing compared to Wii or even Wii U in 10 months: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games

And of course Sony can make better Switch by copy Nintendo idea's first then hope for AMD can make a mobile chip that is way stronger than Nvidia's Tegra X3 which cost $250 only and last 4 - 5 hours or even a lot more. It also can sell like PSP because all Western customers are willing to buy a portable when they love play on TV with mega hit like Sonymon - Pokemon killer

I knew you would come around eventually.

KBG29 said:

Honestly, I don't even see how there is an argument to a PlayStation Switch Succeeding, especially if it takes over for the Xperia brand as well. Sony was able to sell 16 million Vitas with almost no support. They are able to sell 14 million Xperias a year with no marketing or contracts in the US. There is really no easier play in all of business than Sony finally delivering a PlayStation Phone that can hook to the TV. It should have happened with the original PSP, and it still should happen today.

Not only would a PlayStation Switch Phone be successful, it would be the highest selling peice of gaming hardware in the history of the industry. The most versatile gaming device ever made, the deepest library in the history of mobile gaming devices, the first VR enabled handheld gaming device, and the first portable gaming device to allow full form online multiplayer any time any place with wifi or a 4G/5G. Sony has everything they need to make every statement above a reality, and if they do, they will propel PlayStation and Sony into the big leagues.

I think both a portable/hybrid and phone could do well enough to make it worth supporting, but I don't see either product coming anywhere close to PS4 territory. Even PS3 numbers would surprise me. Maybe sales of both added together. PS would also have to focus more on free to play games, first and third party. I would have to assume if they were going to attempt this, they would try a Switch like model first, and if that sold well enough, then the phone possibly. They would have the gaming aspect covered well, but as for the rest of the phone itself, trying to take a larger portion of Apple and Samsung's pie isn't going to be easy. A small handheld with the flip screen portion being removable as a phone would be their best bet I think. Small enough to be a phone, large enough together to be a handheld with decent controls. I think PS needs a strong enough and stable enough handheld/hybrid before they even attempt an all in one phone with a strong gaming focus.



EricHiggin said: 

I think both a portable/hybrid and phone could do well enough to make it worth supporting, but I don't see either product coming anywhere close to PS4 territory. Even PS3 numbers would surprise me. Maybe sales of both added together. PS would also have to focus more on free to play games, first and third party. I would have to assume if they were going to attempt this, they would try a Switch like model first, and if that sold well enough, then the phone possibly. They would have the gaming aspect covered well, but as for the rest of the phone itself, trying to take a larger portion of Apple and Samsung's pie isn't going to be easy. A small handheld with the flip screen portion being removable as a phone would be their best bet I think. Small enough to be a phone, large enough together to be a handheld with decent controls. I think PS needs a strong enough and stable enough handheld/hybrid before they even attempt an all in one phone with a strong gaming focus.

I think they have to have the Phone and Hybrid/Portable option available from day one. The biggest complaint I heard about Vita from non gaming forum types, was the lack of a system level phone/text support. People love the idea of the Vita, having better inputs than just touch, and higher quality games, but without it being a phone people lost interest. Most people don't  want to carry around a seperate phone and a handheld.

Basically if they make any handheld, it should have have a Wifi only model, and a 4G/5G Phone model. Once they have the ground work for this type of product layed, offering a version with mobile support is a very high potential, and very low cost option. If they could work out deals with AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon in the US, they could easily move more units of a PlayStation Phone than they currently are with the whole range of Xperia devices.



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KBG29 said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Yeah, it clearly are lacking third party game when it have nothing compared to Wii or even Wii U in 10 months: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games

And of course Sony can make better Switch by copy Nintendo idea's first then hope for AMD can make a mobile chip that is way stronger than Nvidia's Tegra X3 which cost $250 only and last 4 - 5 hours or even a lot more. It also can sell like PSP because all Western customers are willing to buy a portable when they love play on TV with mega hit like Sonymon - Pokemon killer

Honestly, I don't even see how there is an argument to a PlayStation Switch Succeeding, especially if it takes over for the Xperia brand as well. Sony was able to sell 16 million Vitas with almost no support. They are able to sell 14 million Xperias a year with no marketing or contracts in the US. There is really no easier play in all of business than Sony finally delivering a PlayStation Phone that can hook to the TV. It should have happened with the original PSP, and it still should happen today.

Not only would a PlayStation Switch Phone be successful, it would be the highest selling peice of gaming hardware in the history of the industry. The most versatile gaming device ever made, the deepest library in the history of mobile gaming devices, the first VR enabled handheld gaming device, and the first portable gaming device to allow full form online multiplayer any time any place with wifi or a 4G/5G. Sony has everything they need to make every statement above a reality, and if they do, they will propel PlayStation and Sony into the big leagues.

"The most versatile gaming device ever made, the deepest library in the history of mobile gaming devices, the first VR enabled handheld gaming device, and the first portable gaming device to allow full form online multiplayer any time any place with wifi or a 4G/5G" which cost $900 but only to general gamers who are not Sony fans. Meanwhile, Sony fans can get it for only $250 or even cheaper because they can see the truth unlike others can't see through the illusion price and it can last 24 hours without charge. It also will "be the highest selling piece of gaming hardware in the history of the industry", sell 10 times more than 155 mil ps2 and 154 mil DS, outsell Iphone/Samsung Galaxy by a huge margin. You heard it here, folks. The seer have said what will happen in near future. Sony will rule the world, prepare yourself



HoangNhatAnh said:

"The most versatile gaming device ever made, the deepest library in the history of mobile gaming devices, the first VR enabled handheld gaming device, and the first portable gaming device to allow full form online multiplayer any time any place with wifi or a 4G/5G" which cost $900 but only to general gamers who are not Sony fans. Meanwhile, Sony fans can get it for only $250 or even cheaper because they can see the truth unlike others can't see through the illusion price and it can last 24 hours without charge. It also will "be the highest selling piece of gaming hardware in the history of the industry", sell 10 times more than 155 mil ps2 and 154 mil DS, outsell Iphone/Samsung Galaxy by a huge margin. You heard it here, folks. The seer have said what will happen in near future. Sony will rule the world, prepare yourself

No reason it would cost anywhere close to $900 for anyone.

24 hours is possible for calling, texting, web browsing, video stream, and music, but not in gaming. Current Smartphones don't even offer 24 hours of gaming on a charge.

I specifically said it would be the highest selling Gaming Hardware. No way it outsells Galaxy or iPhone. It definitly would outsell PS2 and DS though.

The door is open for anyone to take this space. Nintendo, Sony, Apple, Microsoft, it is up for grabs. Nintendo could very easily deliver a Switch Phone in the next year, and seal the deal on mobile gaming devices. If they do, I feel the same. It would end up being the single highest selling peice of hardware in the history of the gaming business.

This thread is about whether a PlayStation Switch could be successful, and to that I say, without a doubt. If done right a PlayStation spin on the Switch could very easily succeed and become the highest selling device the industry has ever seen. At the very worst a fully supported PlayStation Switch/Phone would move 15 million units a year, and be a very viable platform. If a terrible, undersupported, and unpopular brand like Xperia can sell 15 Million a year, then a great, fully supported, and very popular brand would almost certainly do better.



Stop hate, let others live the life they were given. Everyone has their problems, and no one should have to feel ashamed for the way they were born. Be proud of who you are, encourage others to be proud of themselves. Learn, research, absorb everything around you. Nothing is meaningless, a purpose is placed on everything no matter how you perceive it. Discover how to love, and share that love with everything that you encounter. Help make existence a beautiful thing.

Kevyn B Grams
10/03/2010 

KBG29 on PSN&XBL