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Last November,

I supported him and I still do - Americas 91 15.83%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Americas 16 2.78%
 
I supported him and I still do - Europe 37 6.43%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Europe 7 1.22%
 
I supported him and I still do - Asia 6 1.04%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Asia 1 0.17%
 
I supported him and I still do - RoW 14 2.43%
 
I supported him and I now don't - RoW 2 0.35%
 
I didn't support him and still don't. 372 64.70%
 
I didn't support him and now do. 29 5.04%
 
Total:575
Runa216 said:
Runa216 said:

Because if we don't then things get even worse due to inaction. 

Passivity never solved any problems and right now, Trumpards are a genuine pox upon this land. IF they are not countered they will make the place even worse! 


User was Banned for Flamming due to this post - cycycychris

Really? I got banned for this? That's just sad. 

Might be because you insulted a portion of this forum and thinking it being justified because they do not have the "right opinion" .

You should know better than being rebellious right now.



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Immersiveunreality said:
Runa216 said:

Really? I got banned for this? That's just sad. 

Might be because you insulted a portion of this forum and thinking it being justified because they do not have the "right opinion" .

You should know better than being rebellious right now.

It is not rebellious nor is it flaming to say that bad people doing bad things is bad for society. Trump's followers are genuinely bad people and their behaviour is emboldening various forms of bigotry and hate crimes. What I said was an objective fact, not 'flamming'. 



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Runa216 said:
Immersiveunreality said:

Might be because you insulted a portion of this forum and thinking it being justified because they do not have the "right opinion" .

You should know better than being rebellious right now.

It is not rebellious nor is it flaming to say that bad people doing bad things is bad for society. Trump's followers are genuinely bad people and their behaviour is emboldening various forms of bigotry and hate crimes. What I said was an objective fact, not 'flamming'. 

Either way. You need to respect other peoples opinions, regardless if they are right or wrong or what part of the political fence they fall on.

Feel free to send a message a moderator to discuss things if you feel it to be unjust (I don't think it was) rather than have an off-topic discussion about it here.



Pemalite said:
Runa216 said:

It is not rebellious nor is it flaming to say that bad people doing bad things is bad for society. Trump's followers are genuinely bad people and their behaviour is emboldening various forms of bigotry and hate crimes. What I said was an objective fact, not 'flamming'. 

Either way. You need to respect other peoples opinions, regardless if they are right or wrong or what part of the political fence they fall on.

Feel free to send a message a moderator to discuss things if you feel it to be unjust (I don't think it was) rather than have an off-topic discussion about it here.

People need to start having opinions worth respecting; not every opinion holds equal value no matter how much certain groups like to play pretend. This whole Trump administration is a perfect example of that because now we have people genuinely believing that liberals rip babies from wombs or that Mexicans/Muslims are bad people or that there are 'fine people' on both sides of a conflict that was about white supremacy. 



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Runa216 said:
Pemalite said:

Either way. You need to respect other peoples opinions, regardless if they are right or wrong or what part of the political fence they fall on.

Feel free to send a message a moderator to discuss things if you feel it to be unjust (I don't think it was) rather than have an off-topic discussion about it here.

People need to start having opinions worth respecting; not every opinion holds equal value no matter how much certain groups like to play pretend. This whole Trump administration is a perfect example of that because now we have people genuinely believing that liberals rip babies from wombs or that Mexicans/Muslims are bad people or that there are 'fine people' on both sides of a conflict that was about white supremacy. 

But you do not get to behave as the judge on how much value an opinion holds,ofcourse you think you speak gospel but others should not be holding your words as truth.



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Immersiveunreality said:
Runa216 said:

People need to start having opinions worth respecting; not every opinion holds equal value no matter how much certain groups like to play pretend. This whole Trump administration is a perfect example of that because now we have people genuinely believing that liberals rip babies from wombs or that Mexicans/Muslims are bad people or that there are 'fine people' on both sides of a conflict that was about white supremacy. 

But you do not get to behave as the judge on how much value an opinion holds,ofcourse you think you speak gospel but others should not be holding your words as truth.

But my words ARE truth. That's the difference between objectivity and subjectivity; I'm not speaking (or typing) these things because they're my opinion, I recite these statements because they are backed by facts. I don't personally give a shit if people like trump, because Trump is funny and fun to watch on the apprentice. But when they believe his lies, listen to what he says, and act as they do in some false attempt at whatever it is they think he wants, that's dangerous. 

Look at New Zealand. 

That really should be all I have to say. That shooter is NOT the only instance of people in America or around the world doing things like this because of trump. 

Feelings and opinions don't matter. Actions and facts matter. I'm not all too fussed about playing nice in this situation because passivity has NEVER solved issues on this scale before. WE need to be calling people out on their bad behaviour, we need to quash bigotry before it gains steam, and the decent people out there need to be the ones making the most progress in the world. as it stands, the most dedicated, resourceful, action-oriented people out there are the ones trying to 'restore white nationalism' or to build a wall. THAT IS NOT OKAY. 



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Runa216 said:
Immersiveunreality said:

But you do not get to behave as the judge on how much value an opinion holds,ofcourse you think you speak gospel but others should not be holding your words as truth.

But my words ARE truth. That's the difference between objectivity and subjectivity; I'm not speaking (or typing) these things because they're my opinion, I recite these statements because they are backed by facts. I don't personally give a shit if people like trump, because Trump is funny and fun to watch on the apprentice. But when they believe his lies, listen to what he says, and act as they do in some false attempt at whatever it is they think he wants, that's dangerous. 

Look at New Zealand. 

That really should be all I have to say. That shooter is NOT the only instance of people in America or around the world doing things like this because of trump. 

Feelings and opinions don't matter. Actions and facts matter. I'm not all too fussed about playing nice in this situation because passivity has NEVER solved issues on this scale before. WE need to be calling people out on their bad behaviour, we need to quash bigotry before it gains steam, and the decent people out there need to be the ones making the most progress in the world. as it stands, the most dedicated, resourceful, action-oriented people out there are the ones trying to 'restore white nationalism' or to build a wall. THAT IS NOT OKAY. 

Bolded 1 : I am sure you believe them to be, you should be better of doubting yourself once in a while and surely with the statements you make to follow up on that in the same comment.

Bolded 2 : Gratz for being the tool of the shooter,you act how he wanted people to act in mass and that even a horrible act like this can be used by you for the narrative you like it to be says a lot,he was lunatic and driven by unrelated shit and memes,spyro 3 damn inspired him but yet you do love that he did a mention of Trump.



Runa216 said:
Immersiveunreality said:

Might be because you insulted a portion of this forum and thinking it being justified because they do not have the "right opinion" .

You should know better than being rebellious right now.

It is not rebellious nor is it flaming to say that bad people doing bad things is bad for society. Trump's followers are genuinely bad people and their behaviour is emboldening various forms of bigotry and hate crimes. What I said was an objective fact, not 'flamming'. 

I would consider that a generalization.  Not all Trump supporters I would consider Trumptarts or anywhere close to being bad people.  I have to many friends who are Trump supporters and I know them very well.  There are clearly some very closed minded supporters which you probably can put into the Trumptart category but its probably best to show which type of supporter you mean.  The behavior of some Trump Supporters are no different than any supporter.  Some people hate to see the person they vote for be anything else then what they envisioned them to be.



Runa216 said:
Immersiveunreality said:

But you do not get to behave as the judge on how much value an opinion holds,ofcourse you think you speak gospel but others should not be holding your words as truth.

But my words ARE truth. That's the difference between objectivity and subjectivity; I'm not speaking (or typing) these things because they're my opinion, I recite these statements because they are backed by facts. I don't personally give a shit if people like trump, because Trump is funny and fun to watch on the apprentice. But when they believe his lies, listen to what he says, and act as they do in some false attempt at whatever it is they think he wants, that's dangerous. 

Look at New Zealand. 

That really should be all I have to say. That shooter is NOT the only instance of people in America or around the world doing things like this because of trump. 

Feelings and opinions don't matter. Actions and facts matter. I'm not all too fussed about playing nice in this situation because passivity has NEVER solved issues on this scale before. WE need to be calling people out on their bad behaviour, we need to quash bigotry before it gains steam, and the decent people out there need to be the ones making the most progress in the world. as it stands, the most dedicated, resourceful, action-oriented people out there are the ones trying to 'restore white nationalism' or to build a wall. THAT IS NOT OKAY. 

First off, if you had gone through the killers manifesto, they don't exactly portray Trump or conservatives in the best of light. Seems like they agreed with some things but not others.

Secondly, and far more importantly, if you want to try and blame someone like Trump and the people who back him because an act like this took place in his name, apparently, well what about 9/11 then? Does that mean every person on the planet who praises Allah are terrible people? Should that religion be banned from existence, or at least not be given a platform? That doesn't sound fair to the people who believe in the good behind it and not the twisted evil that may come of it, as long as the good portion is the overwhelming majority. You don't let a tree's fruit rot just because there's a few bad apples mixed in with the bunch. The tree, didn't want those apples to go bad, that's just how the world works.

You can't put people in boxes like that. It's hard not to when articulating it, but every single person is unique, yet while one of a kind, they tend to seem more alike when you have little choice in who to follow. Which candidate of the few? Which prophet of the Lord? Some people have 'given up' on God, so should people 'give up' on politics and voting?

I'm not saying nothing should be done and a blind eye turned, but the problem once again is close to the source. You don't see Trump voters going out and doing things like this in mass because they've been brought up properly and understand the message. Same goes for the religions. Those few who weren't bought up properly, are the issue. Did the Bernie ball game shooter try to kill Republican Senators because of Trumps message? Do his actions speak for all Dems? Maybe just maybe he had his own problems and one way or another, at some point in time, was going to do something unfathomable. Do we really want to get rid of all fuel sources, wood included, because they could potentially start a fire under the most unlikely of conditions?



The Canadian National Anthem According To Justin Trudeau

 

Oh planet Earth! The home of native lands, 
True social law, in all of us demand.
With cattle farts, we view sea rise,
Our North sinking slowly.
From far and snide, oh planet Earth, 
Our healthcare is yours free!
Science save our land, harnessing the breeze,
Oh planet Earth, smoke weed and ferment yeast.
Oh planet Earth, ell gee bee queue and tee.

How has this become normal? How has this become tolerable for the highest office in the country?

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