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Last November,

I supported him and I still do - Americas 91 15.77%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Americas 16 2.77%
 
I supported him and I still do - Europe 37 6.41%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Europe 7 1.21%
 
I supported him and I still do - Asia 6 1.04%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Asia 1 0.17%
 
I supported him and I still do - RoW 15 2.60%
 
I supported him and I now don't - RoW 2 0.35%
 
I didn't support him and still don't. 373 64.64%
 
I didn't support him and now do. 29 5.03%
 
Total:577
EricHiggin on 28 February 2019
SpokenTruth said:

So Trump and his administration have decided they will no longer demand that North Korea release a full disclosure of their nuclear weapons programs.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/u-s-drops-demand-full-accounting-n-korea-nuclear-program-n977251

So they derided Obama and previous administrations for not being able to get NK to disclose their nuclear programs and here is Trump and his administration totally backing out of their demand for it.  Great Negotiator indeed.

The offer obviously wasn't enough. He could have offered billions upon billions to get them to do it, but then he still would have been scolded by the left because that wouldn't have been a reasonable thing to do...



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Machiavellian on 28 February 2019
EricHiggin said:
SpokenTruth said:

So Trump and his administration have decided they will no longer demand that North Korea release a full disclosure of their nuclear weapons programs.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/u-s-drops-demand-full-accounting-n-korea-nuclear-program-n977251

So they derided Obama and previous administrations for not being able to get NK to disclose their nuclear programs and here is Trump and his administration totally backing out of their demand for it.  Great Negotiator indeed.

The offer obviously wasn't enough. He could have offered billions upon billions to get them to do it, but then he still would have been scolded by the left because that wouldn't have been a reasonable thing to do...

Lol, so this is your defense, the Left would scold Trump.  Trump doesn't care about the Left so why is that even a concern.  Either he accomplish something or he did not, you cannot have it both ways.  If he doesn't accomplish something you blame the Left or find some way to shift blame.  The point is that he made a big deal about meeting NK and actually doing something.  We have 2 meetings and nothing from it, Absolutely nothing.  I cannot wait for your next leftist excuse for another of Trump failures.



PortisheadBiscuit on 28 February 2019
CaptainExplosion said:

Yuck



EricHiggin on 28 February 2019
Machiavellian said:
EricHiggin said:

The offer obviously wasn't enough. He could have offered billions upon billions to get them to do it, but then he still would have been scolded by the left because that wouldn't have been a reasonable thing to do...

Lol, so this is your defense, the Left would scold Trump.  Trump doesn't care about the Left so why is that even a concern.  Either he accomplish something or he did not, you cannot have it both ways.  If he doesn't accomplish something you blame the Left or find some way to shift blame.  The point is that he made a big deal about meeting NK and actually doing something.  We have 2 meetings and nothing from it, Absolutely nothing.  I cannot wait for your next leftist excuse for another of Trump failures.

Kim says in private he wants billions. Trump says no. Kim says why not? Trump says we don't do things that way. Kim says sure you do, Obama did. Trump says I'm not Obama.

Trump can't make a deal because of the precedent Obama set but even if he wanted to, he couldn't, because he would be 'wrong' for using money to solve a problem.

Since when did the left start taking Trump at his word? Why is it odd he hasn't made a deal based on what he said? I thought he was a con and liar? 



EricHiggin on 28 February 2019
SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

Kim says in private he wants billions. Trump says no. Kim says why not? Trump says we don't do things that way. Kim says sure you do, Obama did. 

Citation needed for all this.  Because I'm calling you out on it.

Well that would defeat the purpose of it being done in "private" wouldn't it?



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EricHiggin on 28 February 2019
SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:

Well that would defeat the purpose of it being done in "private" wouldn't it?

So you're blaming Obama for Trump's failure to negotiate based on your own private wishful thinking.  Got it.

Pretty much yup. The initial reply was just as insightful.

Machiavellian said:

Lol, so this is your defense, the Left would scold Trump.  Trump doesn't care about the Left so why is that even a concern.  Either he accomplish something or he did not, you cannot have it both ways.  If he doesn't accomplish something you blame the Left or find some way to shift blame.  The point is that he made a big deal about meeting NK and actually doing something.  We have 2 meetings and nothing from it, Absolutely nothing.  I cannot wait for your next leftist excuse for another of Trump failures.

 

Trump doesn't care about the left? That's a pretty bold claim. Either people accomplish something or they don't? You mean like if both sides have to compromise to make a deal happen, which is typical, and yet Trump always get's bashed for doing just that? Well when the left always blames the right, I'm not sure why it would be odd for the right to blame the left? Wanna know who made a mic drop big point? Obama, when he pointed out that at least he got to be President. Wait a minute...



CosmicSex on 28 February 2019

I really believe that Trump will go to jail.



EricHiggin on 01 March 2019
CaptainExplosion said:
SpokenTruth said:

Offer?  I didn't say NK backed out.  Trump and his administration backed out.

Just like they back out of common decency every chance they get.

I didn't realize common decency and political correctness meant the same thing. Explains a lot.



Machiavellian on 01 March 2019
EricHiggin said:
Machiavellian said:

Lol, so this is your defense, the Left would scold Trump.  Trump doesn't care about the Left so why is that even a concern.  Either he accomplish something or he did not, you cannot have it both ways.  If he doesn't accomplish something you blame the Left or find some way to shift blame.  The point is that he made a big deal about meeting NK and actually doing something.  We have 2 meetings and nothing from it, Absolutely nothing.  I cannot wait for your next leftist excuse for another of Trump failures.

Kim says in private he wants billions. Trump says no. Kim says why not? Trump says we don't do things that way. Kim says sure you do, Obama did. Trump says I'm not Obama.

Trump can't make a deal because of the precedent Obama set but even if he wanted to, he couldn't, because he would be 'wrong' for using money to solve a problem.

Since when did the left start taking Trump at his word? Why is it odd he hasn't made a deal based on what he said? I thought he was a con and liar? 

Lol, keep going this is getting even more comical. Every failure is always someone else fault.  As always you are still trying to shift blame.  Maybe the reason Trump hasn't made a deal is because he isn't playing with someone who cares about his image but instead just playing him for the fool.  If you even followed politics before Trump you would know this is NK spin cycle.  Trump continue to give them a national image while getting nothing.  They will continue to play him for the fool, have as many summits as he want and continue to give nothing in return.



Machiavellian on 01 March 2019
EricHiggin said:
SpokenTruth said:

So you're blaming Obama for Trump's failure to negotiate based on your own private wishful thinking.  Got it.

Pretty much yup. The initial reply was just as insightful.

 

Trump doesn't care about the left? That's a pretty bold claim. Either people accomplish something or they don't? You mean like if both sides have to compromise to make a deal happen, which is typical, and yet Trump always get's bashed for doing just that? Well when the left always blames the right, I'm not sure why it would be odd for the right to blame the left? Wanna know who made a mic drop big point? Obama, when he pointed out that at least he got to be President. Wait a minute...

Who was it that was blaming the Left as a barometer of Trump accomplishment.  You used it as some type of statement to make it appear no matter what Trump does the left will find fault.  The question to you would be why would Trump care what the left consider an accomplishment.  When has Trump ever cared about what the left consider as an  accomplishment.  He has always did what he believe his base wants, so your whole defense was a total straw man argument. 

Its as if you want someone to pity Trump.  No one pities a President.  Its one of the toughest jobs on the planet and if the person who seeks that Job isn't ready for constant bashing every president gets then maybe they should seek another job.